Does the Earth's distance from the sun change due to gravity?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the Earth's distance from the Sun changes due to gravitational effects, alongside related queries about the interactions between electrons and protons. It encompasses both conceptual and astronomical considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that electrons and protons are generally prevented from meeting due to quantum effects, while others propose that under certain conditions, such as high pressure from gravity, they can collide and form neutrons.
  • There is uncertainty regarding whether the Earth is getting closer to the Sun due to gravity, with one participant noting that the Moon is moving away from the Earth due to tidal effects, which are less pronounced between the Earth and the Sun.
  • Another participant asserts that the Earth does get closer to the Sun at certain times of the year due to its elliptical orbit, but emphasizes that the average distance does not change significantly from year to year.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the Earth's orbit and its distance from the Sun, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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The discussion includes assumptions about gravitational effects and the nature of orbits, but these are not fully resolved or agreed upon by participants.

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1-Does an electron and proton ever meet each other if they are attracted to each other?
2-If yes, what happens when they do?
3-Similarly is the Earth getting nearer to the sun due to gravity? I know moon is getting away due to some reasons but what about Earth and sun.
 
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1-Usually No. Quantum effect avoids them to meet.
2-But in astronomy high pressure by gravity can make them meet to become neutrons, say neutron stars.
3-I do not know about it and have interest two.

Regards.
 
PrincePhoenix said:
1-Does an electron and proton ever meet each other if they are attracted to each other?
2-If yes, what happens when they do?
They can be caused to collide, yes. They combine to make a neutron.
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3-Similarly is the Earth getting nearer to the sun due to gravity? I know moon is getting away due to some reasons but what about Earth and sun.
The Moon is climbing away from Earth due to tidal effects. In a nutshell: Earth's imperfect sphere is tugging on the Moon, giving it a kick faster in its orbit. Faster means outward.

This is far, far less pronounced between Sun and Earth. The Sun's tidal gradient is much, much lower. A bigger factor in Earth's orbit is other planets such as Jupiter.
 
Well, yes, the getting is getting nearer to the sun! And at a pretty quick rate, right now. It will be closed to the sun in midwinter (in the northern hemisphere) and then start going away from the sun, just like it does every year. The orbit of the Earth around the sun is an ellipse, not a perfect circle (though close to a circle- its eccentricty is about 0.0167) so there is a point in its orbit that is closest to the sun and a point in its orbit that is farthest from the sun.

The Earth's average distance from the sun does not change much, if at all, from year to year.
 

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