Does the Force Formula F=m x 10 N/kg Apply to Bodies at Rest or in Motion?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the force formula F = m × 10 N/kg, specifically questioning whether it applies to bodies at rest or in motion. The context includes concepts of weight and gravitational force.

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  • Participants explore the meaning of the formula and its relation to weight, questioning whether it is valid for moving bodies as well as those at rest. Some express confusion about the formula's derivation and its implications.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the formula's validity in different contexts, with some participants suggesting that it applies universally while others emphasize its specific use for weight near the Earth's surface. Multiple interpretations of the formula and its application are being discussed.

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Participants note that the formula is often associated with gravitational acceleration, which is typically approximated as 10 m/s² near the Earth's surface. There is also mention of the simplification of units in the context of the formula.

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Homework Statement


Does the force formula ##F=m χ 10\frac{N}{kg}## which means ##F=G##, apply for bodies on rest or motion?


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##F=G=m χ 10\frac{N}{kg}##

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I think it only applies for bodies in rest.

I'm waiting an answer , thanks!
 
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The formula W = mg gives you the weight of a mass m, regardless of whether it's at rest or in motion.
 
Weight is G, not W.., anyways I wasn't asking about other formulas, i was asking about my formula ##F=mχ10\frac{N}{kg}##
 
-Physician said:
Weight is G, not W..,
:rolleyes:
anyways I wasn't asking about other formulas, i was asking about my formula ##F=mχ10\frac{N}{kg}##
Where did you get that formula? It sure looks like 'mg' to me, which is weight. Seems like you're using g = 10 m/s^2.
 
I see you don't know that formula,we use that to find the Pushing force or weight of a body using the mass, which i think that the body is in rest. For example if we have a body with mass 2g, then the weight would be:

##G=mχ10\frac{N}{kg}=\frac{2}{1000}kg χ 10\frac{N}{kg} = \frac{200}{1000}N##(btw. kilogram and kilogram get simplified )

What I wanted to ask is if that formula applies also if the body is in motion
 
-Physician said:
I see you don't know that formula,we use that to find the Pushing force or weight of a body using the mass, which i think that the body is in rest. For example if we have a body with mass 2g, then the weight would be:

##G=mχ10\frac{N}{kg}=\frac{2}{1000}kg χ 10\frac{N}{kg} = \frac{200}{1000}N##(btw. kilogram and kilogram get simplified )

What I wanted to ask is if that formula applies also if the body is in motion

No ! Doc Al got you correct. Your formula is nothing but of weight which is mass times gravity.

F=mg

Newton per kg in your unit gives you gravitational pull..

1 N/kg = 1 m/s2

You are assuming gravity in your formula to be 10 m/s2.

So you state that weight = mg = m*10 N/kg
OR
weight = m*10 m/s2
Of course , I guess everyone here know that kg and kg gets simplified..:rolleyes:

Your formula is nothing but simple mg where you substituted for g by 10 metre per second squared.

Edit : Of course this formula applies when body is in motion. Doc Al already stated that in previous posts.
 
So, the gravity is not always ##10\frac{N}{kg}##, then why is the Weight/Force formula
##F=mχ10\frac{N}{kg}##
 
-Physician said:
So, the gravity is not always ##10\frac{N}{kg}##, then why is the Weight/Force formula
##F=mχ10\frac{N}{kg}##
That formula applies near the Earth's surface.
 
Thank you very much, I am new on physics, I am only on the first grade so , I need to learn more :) Thanks@!
 
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Anyways, can the body near the Earth surface be in motion and in rest aswell, or only in rest or only in motion?
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Would...:
##1\frac{N}{kg}=1\frac{m}{s^2}## because :
##1\frac{N}{kg}=1\frac{m}{s^2}=1\frac{kg\frac{m}{s^2}}{kg}=1\frac{m}{s^2}##kg and kg get simplified ##=1\frac{m}{s^2}=1\frac{m}{s^2}##
 
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-Physician said:
Anyways, can the body near the Earth surface be in motion and in rest aswell, or only in rest or only in motion?
I don't know what you mean. A rock (for example) can be in motion or at rest. (Not at the same time within the same reference frame, of course.)

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Would...:
##1\frac{N}{kg}=1\frac{m}{s^2}## because :
Sure, those units are equivalent.
 

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