Does the Series 1/(3n-2)(3n+1) Converge and What is Its Sum?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of various series, specifically the series 1/(3n-2)(3n+1) and ln(1-1/n^2), as well as additional series such as 1/(sqrt(n)+sqrt(n+1)) and sin^2(1/n). Participants seek to determine whether these series converge or diverge and how to calculate their sums or partial sums.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the series 1/(3n-2)(3n+1) converges, suggesting it is asymptotically less than 1/n^2, which is known to converge.
  • Another participant expresses doubt about the convergence of ln(1-1/n^2), noting that the first term becomes negative infinity when n=1.
  • A participant introduces a telescoping series approach for 1/(3n-2)(3n+1) and suggests that ln(1-1/n^2) can also be simplified for summation.
  • Inquiries are made about calculating the Nth partial sum for the series 1/(sqrt(n)+sqrt(n+1)), with suggestions to conjecture based on observed partial sums.
  • Participants discuss the meaning of the Nth sum and the process of proving conjectures by induction.
  • There is mention of using comparison tests to evaluate the convergence of sin^2(1/n) and the series involving 1/(sqrt(n)+sqrt(n+1)).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the convergence of the series discussed, particularly regarding ln(1-1/n^2) and sin^2(1/n). There is no consensus on the methods for proving convergence or the outcomes of the series.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical techniques such as telescoping series, induction proofs, and comparison tests, but the application of these methods remains unresolved in the context of the series discussed.

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I have a problem.
Does the series 1/(3n-2)(3n+1) converge or diverge. If it converges find its sum.
How would I do this.
 
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Also, does the series ln(1-1/n^2) converge or diverge. If so calculate the sum.
I know to first calculate the partial sum but i don't know how to do this. Someone please help.
 
The first series converges for sure. To see this, simply note that it is asymptotically less than 1/n^2, a convergent series.

If the second one starts at n=1, then I'm sure it doesn't converge. Plugging in n=1, you get that the first term is negative infinity.

To evaluate the first series... well, that's a good question.
 
Observe that

[tex]\frac{1}{(3n-2)(3n+1)} = \frac13 \left( \frac{1}{3n-2} - \frac{1}{3n+1} \right)[/tex]

so you get a telescoping series. Similarly,

[tex]\ln \left( 1 - \frac{1}{n^2} \right) = \ln \frac{(n - 1)(n + 1)}{n^2}<br /> = \ln (n - 1) - 2 \ln n + \ln (n + 1)[/tex]

which also collapses on summation. (Of course, you must start at n = 2.)
 
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One more problem.
How do I calculate the Nth partial sum to the series 1/(sqrt(n)+sqrt(n+1)) and hence determine if this series converges.
And determine if the series sin^2(1/n) diverges or converges.
Someones help would be appreciated.
I'm not to sure how to start either of them.
 
For the first one, you should find that the first few partial sums

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{N} \frac{1}{\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1}}[/tex]

are [tex]1, \sqrt{2}, \sqrt{3}, 2, \sqrt{5}[/tex]. Can you make a conjecture from this and prove it (by induction)?

For the second one, compare with 1/n2.
 
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Why do I prove it by induction?
And I'm still not sure how to find the Nth sum. What is the meaning of the Nth sum?
 
If you have a series
[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n,[/tex]
the Nth partial sum is
[tex]\sum_{n=0}^N a_n.[/tex]

As for proving that, I'm just suggesting a way to prove it, that's probably the easiest.
 
Okay, I see now. Thanx.
So how would I apply it to the example 1/(sqrt(n)+sqrt(n+1))?
 
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Well, as I suggested, your conjecture should be that

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{N} \frac{1}{\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1}} = \sqrt{N + 1}.[/tex]

You would prove that by induction on N. (Have you done induction proofs before? Any good analysis course should teach it.) Clearly it's true if N = 0; now suppose it's true for N - 1, that is, suppose that

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{N-1} \frac{1}{\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1}} = \sqrt{(N - 1) + 1} = \sqrt{N}.[/tex]

Then,

[tex]\begin{align*}<br /> \sum_{n=0}^{N} \frac{1}{\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1}}<br /> &= \sum_{n=0}^{N-1} \frac{1}{\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1}} + \frac{1}{\sqrt{N} + \sqrt{N+1}} \\<br /> &= \sqrt{N} + \frac{1}{\sqrt{N} + \sqrt{N+1}},<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]

and all you have to do now is prove that this equals [tex]\sqrt{N + 1}[/tex].
 
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It goes from n=1 to infinity.
 
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Then just subtract the n = 0 term from everything, so

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{N} \frac{1}{\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1}} = \sqrt{N + 1} - 1.[/tex]
 
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Thanks heaps for that.
How would I prove that this converges then.
Do I do a comparison test with sqrt(N+1)-1 and 1/(sqrt(n)+sqrt(n+1))
 
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To see if the series sin^2(1/n) converges or diverges do I do a comparison test with 1/n^2.
Thanks.
 
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squenshl said:
Thanks heaps for that.
How would I prove that this converges then.
Do I do a comparison test with sqrt(N+1)-1 and 1/(sqrt(n)+sqrt(n+1))

No; you'd use the definition of convergence of a series.
 

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