Does this star contain hydrogen?

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This discussion focuses on determining the presence of hydrogen and He+ in a star through spectral analysis. Participants emphasize the importance of identifying specific wavelengths associated with hydrogen and He+ and suggest using diagrams to illustrate absorption lines. The calculations for spectral lines can be derived from the Rydberg formula, applicable to both hydrogen and helium. It is noted that while there is no maximum energy level for hydrogen, practical observation limits the effectiveness of higher levels due to diminishing intensity.

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  • Understanding of spectral lines and absorption spectra
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Astronomers, astrophysicists, and students studying stellar spectroscopy will benefit from this discussion, particularly those interested in identifying elemental compositions in stars.

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Does this star contain hydrogen?
Does this star contain He+?
Justify your answer with diagrams and calculations.

If I find the wavelengths of Hydrogen, can I go to the graph and check if there's any intensity at these wavelengths? Do all of the wavelengths have to exist for hydrogen to be present?

As for He+, I have no idea how to do that.

Any suggestions as to what kind of diagrams I might need and calculations?

Oh, and how many energy levels do I need to go up to? Is the max for Hydrogen n=6? What about Helium?
 

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physicsss said:
Does this star contain hydrogen?
Does this star contain He+?
Justify your answer with diagrams and calculations.

If I find the wavelengths of Hydrogen, can I go to the graph and check if there's any intensity at these wavelengths? Do all of the wavelengths have to exist for hydrogen to be present?
You want to ne looking for absorption at those wavelengths.Some lines will be weaker than others. The very short wavelengths might be too weak to see.

As for He+, I have no idea how to do that.
The same formula for finding the spectral lines of H will work for He+ (single electron system) as well. There's only one difference to keep in mind...

Oh, and how many energy levels do I need to go up to? Is the max for Hydrogen n=6? What about Helium?
There is no max. But as you go to higher and higher lines, you intensity will get weaker, till it's hard to discern from the graph. Match as many as you can make out clearly.
 

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