Dog Summits 23,389-foot Baruntse, in Nepal’s Himalaya

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The discussion centers around a dog that accompanied climbers to the summit of Baruntse in Nepal, exploring themes of animal endurance, adaptations to high altitude, and the cultural perceptions of dogs in the region.

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  • Some participants express curiosity about how the dog avoided frostbite and managed the high altitude, suggesting possible genetic adaptations.
  • One participant mentions that Tibetan dogs may have inherited genes from wolves that allow them to adapt to high altitudes.
  • Another participant references research on Tibetan people's genetic adaptations to high altitude, linking it to Denisovans or Neanderthals.
  • There is a light-hearted exchange about personal experiences with dogs and their tolerance to cold weather.

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Participants generally share curiosity about the dog's endurance and adaptations, but there is no consensus on the specific mechanisms or genetic factors involved.

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Limitations include the lack of detailed scientific evidence presented in the discussion regarding the genetic adaptations of the dog or the specifics of how it managed the cold and altitude.

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https://www.outsideonline.com/2390456/first-dog-ascent-baruntse-nepal about a dog that attached herself to a group of climbers on their way up the mountian, would not give up and went all the way to the top (and back down).
Because many dogs in the area have rabies, the locals generally don't like them much. However, her spunkiness forged a connection with the sherpas who now consider her good luck. One of them adopted her.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Wow, how did she not get frost bite!
Fur?

She did not have problems with the altitude either.
Probably inherited genes adapting her to high altitude from her local dog ancestors.
I have read Tibetan people have inherited something like a high altitude hemoglobin from either Denisovans or Neanderthals.
 
BillTre said:
Fur?
Well I have a dog and she begs to come in after about 30min in the teens.
 
Here is a Science news article about altitude adaptations in Tibetan dogs.
They may have gotten adaptive genes from wolves (locally adapted ones).
It also talks about the Tibetans getting genes from the Denisovans.

The original article has some great pictures.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Well I have a dog and she begs to come in after about 30min in the teens.
So clearly you need to go outside and sit with her and show her the videos from this thread. You can inspire her! :smile:
 
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berkeman said:
So clearly you need to go outside and sit with her and show her the videos from this thread. You can inspire her! :smile:
nah too cold :biggrin:
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
nah too cold :biggrin:
For you or the pup?
 
berkeman said:
For you or the pup?
mostly me :biggrin:
 
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