Double Slit Experiment: Detection around slit?

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The discussion revolves around the double slit experiment, specifically focusing on the behavior of photons as they interact with the slits and potential detection mechanisms at the barrier where the slits are located. Participants explore the implications of using a detector at the barrier and the resulting patterns observed, as well as questions regarding the timing and interference of photons.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the percentage of photons that pass through the slits and whether any collide with the barrier, questioning how this might change if the barrier is a detector.
  • One participant suggests that using a mirror as the barrier would allow for the collection of reflected photons, but argues that this would not alter the double slit interference pattern observed behind the slits.
  • Another participant agrees that only a percentage of photons pass through the slits and states that the pattern on the barrier would appear as a blob with higher intensity toward the center, regardless of whether the barrier acts as a detector.
  • A different perspective is offered regarding the replacement of slits with a barrier, suggesting that while a pattern would emerge, it might be more difficult to discern, yet would ultimately yield a similar result as if no slits were present.
  • Further questions are raised about the arrival timing of photons at the detector, specifically whether fluctuations occur and how this relates to the interference pattern created by probability waves.
  • Participants also discuss the potential for reflection interference if parts of the setup are modified to include mirrors, questioning whether the reflected waves would interfere with the forward waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the effects of using a detector at the barrier and the implications for interference patterns. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached on the specific outcomes of these modifications.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the behavior of photons at the barrier, the dependence on definitions of interference, and unresolved questions about the timing of photon arrivals and their relationship to wave characteristics.

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Dear All,

I have a question on the double slit experiment. From the references I've read so far, they are focusing on the results of the detector AFTER the 2 slits.

Let's say when photons are fired, how many % actually pass through the slits and get detected at the end? Would some (and how many) end up colliding at the barrier (marked in red) where the slits are, and would this result change if that barrier is a "detector"?

If so, what pattern does it show there?
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Andy_K said:
Let's say when photons are fired, how many % actually pass through the slits and get detected at the end? Would some (and how many) end up colliding at the barrier (marked in red) where the slits are, and would this result change if that barrier is a "detector"?
You can use mirror as the two slit barrier. Then you can collect reflected photons and detect them with separate detector. But there is no reason to expect any difference in double slit pattern behind slits. Interference can be observed when photon can reach particular detector by two (or more) different paths. If photons on different paths end up in different detectors there are no interference effects.
 
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Andy_K said:
Let's say when photons are fired, how many % actually pass through the slits and get detected at the end? Would some (and how many) end up colliding at the barrier (marked in red) where the slits are, and would this result change if that barrier is a "detector"?

True, only a % of the photons pass through the slits. There is nothing about the barrier (as a detector or otherwise) that particularly make a difference as to whether the screen P shows interference or not. The pattern on the red barrier would be a blob around the 2 slits, intensity higher toward the center.
 
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Nice question. You could consider what happen if you replaced the slits with a barrier and vice-versa. (This would be similar to zonde's suggestion). There would be a pattern, but more difficult to see. The two patterns added together should produce the same picture as if there were no slits!
 
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Dear Zonde, DrChinese and Jilang,

Thank you for your detailed explanations. I have a further couple noob questions on the experiment I hope you can shed some light (or photons) on. =)Arrival Timing of Photons
In a normal double-slit experiment like the above setup, do photons always arrive at the detector at a constant speed (basically, speed of light), or does the arrival time experience fluctuation (albeit an extremely minute one)?

Since the interference pattern is a result of many troughs of (probability) waves, and troughs seem to have a certain order in its propagation (just like in waves, some troughs are in front and some behind), does that mean if a photon is detected at a position created by interference of troughs further back, it would actually arrive at the detector at a slightly later time?

I understand that the "wave" is not physical, but if the interference resembles the characteristics of normal waves, wouldn't that also signify a correlation to the spatial and temporal sequence of troughs?Reflection Interference
If we change some parts of P (please refer to photo in first post) to become a mirror, so that the photon is either reflected back or detected there, would the reflection's backward "wave" interfere with the forward "waves", or perhaps even cancel it out since it's an opposing "motion"?
 
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