Double-slit experiment questions

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The discussion revolves around questions related to the double-slit experiment in quantum physics, focusing on the behavior of electrons and photons when subjected to measurement and the implications for wave-particle duality. Participants explore the nature of wave patterns in single and double slit scenarios, as well as the effects of measurement on quantum states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why electrons do not exhibit wave-like behavior with a single slit, suggesting that a wave pattern should still emerge.
  • Another participant asserts that a wave pattern does indeed form with a single slit when many electrons are detected, referencing a specific source for support.
  • Concerns are raised about the measurement process, with participants discussing whether measuring a wave transforms it into a particle and the implications of this for concepts like time travel.
  • One participant proposes that measuring every electron or photon would prevent the observation of interference patterns, questioning whether measurement simply converts waves into particles.
  • A later reply introduces an experiment with polarized light to illustrate that the orientation of polarizers can affect the presence of interference patterns, challenging the idea that measurement alone is responsible for the lack of interference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of measurement in the double-slit experiment, with some arguing that measurement converts waves to particles, while others provide counterexamples involving polarizers that complicate this perspective. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific experimental setups and theoretical implications, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions about measurement and wave-particle duality. The role of polarizers and their effect on interference patterns introduces additional complexity that is not fully addressed.

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I recently been reading up quantum physics including the double-slit experiments and I got two basic questions:

1# Why does the electron not act like a wave when there is only one slit? Shouldn't a single slit still result in a wave like pattern?

2# 'Measuring' the wave seems to turn it into a particle. Even if this is done after the slits. Yet some scientist are calling this potential time travel. How do they know its not simple a wave that instantly turns into a particle at the point of 'measurement' without any 'time travel'?
 
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v6WR5Pfk6Jm4 said:
I recently been reading up quantum physics including the double-slit experiments and I got two basic questions:

1# Why does the electron not act like a wave when there is only one slit? Shouldn't a single slit still result in a wave like pattern?

It does. If you map out the pattern from thousands of electrons on the detector, you will find that it matches that of a wave passing through a single slit. See here: http://physics.bgsu.edu/~stoner/P202/quantum2/sld012.htm

The pattern matches that of light that passes through a single slit as well.

2# 'Measuring' the wave seems to turn it into a particle. Even if this is done after the slits. Yet some scientist are calling this potential time travel. How do they know its not simple a wave that instantly turns into a particle at the point of 'measurement' without any 'time travel'?

First, let me clarify that when we detect any particle, we are detecting it as a particle. It is only when we look at the combined pattern of many many particles do we see the wave-like effects such as interference. As for time travel, I don't see it that way.
 
First, let me clarify that when we detect any particle, we are detecting it as a particle. It is only when we look at the combined pattern of many many particles do we see the wave-like effects such as interference. As for time travel, I don't see it that way.

But that still leaves me with the same question... What if we 'measure' every single one these electrons/photons before during or after the slits, we wouldn't see interface in any of these situations right?. So why isn't the conclusion that the measures are simple 'converting' it into particles?
 
v6WR5Pfk6Jm4 said:
But that still leaves me with the same question... What if we 'measure' every single one these electrons/photons before during or after the slits, we wouldn't see interface in any of these situations right?. So why isn't the conclusion that the measures are simple 'converting' it into particles?

When this test is done with polarized light, you can see why this view can be eliminated. Have the source light polarized at 45 degrees. Place a polarizer in front of the left slit oriented at 0 degrees. Place another polarizer in front of the right slit also oriented at 0 degrees. RESULT: no information is gained when light comes through the slits as to which slit the photon passed through. Therefore, an interference pattern IS seen.

Change the polarizer in front of the right slit to be oriented at 90 degrees. The photon can now only go through the left slit OR the right slit, but NOT BOTH. Further, if you were to measure the polarization of the photon when it hits the screen, you would know which slit the photon went through. You don't actually need to do this, it is enough that you could. RESULT: information IS gained when light comes through the slits as to which slit the photon passed through. Therefore, NO interference pattern is seen.

Obviously, the only change is the orientation of a polarizer and that is sufficient to change the results from interference to no interference. So that does not correspond to your hypothesis. Because the same kinds of measurements are happening regardless of polarizer orientation!
 

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