Doubt on P.I of [itex]e^{ax} V [/itex]

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The discussion revolves around the determination of the Particular Integral of the expression \( e^{ax} V \), where 'V' is a function of x. Participants explore the application of differential operators and the manipulation of functions within the context of this mathematical problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the placement of \( f(D+a) \) in the equation derived from the manipulation of \( e^{ax} V \).
  • Another participant reiterates the derivation process, questioning how to correctly factor out \( e^{ax} \) from \( D^n(e^{ax}V) \) instead of 'V'.
  • There is a mention of the application of the operator \( D(e^{ax}u) = e^{ax} Du + ae^{ax}u \) as a basis for the manipulation.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding and retracts a previous question, indicating a realization of the correct application of the operator.

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Participants do not reach a consensus, as there is ongoing confusion regarding the manipulation of the differential operator and the placement of terms in the equations. Multiple viewpoints and questions remain unresolved.

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The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the application of differential operators and the assumptions made in manipulating the functions involved. There are unresolved steps in the mathematical reasoning that contribute to the confusion.

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I have a doubt in finding out the Particular Integral of eaxV, where 'V' is a function of x.

I saw the book but they seem to be somewhat unclear regarding this-

Here's the derivation from the book:

If u is a function of x, then
D(eaxu)= eax Du + aeaxu= eax (D+a)u
Similarly you can do for D2,D3... and so on

and after substituting V=f(D+a)u you will get the final equation as -

[itex]\frac{1}{f(D)}(e^{ax}V)[/itex]=[itex]e^{ax} \frac{1}{f(D+a)}[/itex]V

Now my doubt is how do you decide where to put that f(D+a) in the right side of the above equation? I could have interchanged eax and V. This could have resulted in an entirely different answer. I couldn't get that

Thanks a lot
 
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iVenky said:
If u is a function of x, then
D(eaxu)= eax Du + aeaxu= eax (D+a)u
Similarly you can do for D2,D3... and so on

and after substituting V=f(D+a)u you will get the final equation as -

[itex]\frac{1}{f(D)}(e^{ax}V)[/itex]=[itex]e^{ax} \frac{1}{f(D+a)}[/itex]V

Now my doubt is how do you decide where to put that f(D+a) in the right side of the above equation?
If [itex]\frac{1}{f(D)} = Ʃb_n D^n[/itex], [itex]\frac{1}{f(D)}(e^{ax}V) = Ʃb_n D^n(e^{ax}V) = Ʃb_n e^{ax}(D+a)^n(V) = e^{ax} \frac{1}{f(D+a)}V[/itex]
 
haruspex said:
If [itex]\frac{1}{f(D)} = Ʃb_n D^n[/itex], [itex]\frac{1}{f(D)}(e^{ax}V) = Ʃb_n D^n(e^{ax}V) = Ʃb_n e^{ax}(D+a)^n(V) = e^{ax} \frac{1}{f(D+a)}V[/itex]


I still don't get how you take that [itex]e^ax[/itex] out of [itex]D^n(e^{ax}V)[/itex] and not 'V'.

Thanks a lot :)
 
iVenky said:
I still don't get how you take that [itex]e^ax[/itex] out of [itex]D^n(e^{ax}V)[/itex] and not 'V'.
Just by applying D(eaxu)= eax Du + aeaxu= eax (D+a)u
That took the eax out but not the u. Same with the higher powers.
 
haruspex said:
Just by applying D(eaxu)= eax Du + aeaxu= eax (D+a)u
That took the eax out but not the u. Same with the higher powers.

Sorry. I overlooked it. I asked a stupid question.


Thanks a lot :)
 

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