Doubts with the MCNP software for my thesis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around issues encountered while using the MCNP software, specifically related to error messages and input file configurations. Participants are exploring the implications of a specific fatal error message and seeking assistance with their input files in the context of a thesis project.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Geovanny expresses confusion over a fatal error message from MCNP, specifically regarding a tally that does not exist.
  • Some participants suggest searching online for similar MCNP errors, indicating that others may have encountered the same issues.
  • One participant notes the difficulty in providing help without the input file and speculates that the error may be due to a missing surface description for a tally.
  • Another participant points out a potential issue with the geometry definition in the input file, suggesting that the circular cylinder may be incorrectly defined or rotated.
  • Geovanny acknowledges the need to share the input file for further review and expresses uncertainty about the correctness of the cell card.
  • Participants discuss the geometry of the model, with one asserting that the definition of geometry 15 is correct according to the MCNP manual, while also questioning the implementation of the rotation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the cause of the error, as participants propose different hypotheses regarding the input file and geometry definitions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of the error message and the configuration of the input file.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided all assumptions or details regarding the input file, and there may be unresolved aspects of the geometry definitions and tally configurations that could affect the discussion.

Geovanny Gutierrez
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Hello, it's a privilege to enter in this forum. My name is Geovanny, I'm from Mexico and I'm a student from the Autonomous Yucatan University. I'm studying in my last semester of Physical Engineering and i have some doubts about de MCNP software.

One of those is the next message that VISEDX give me when i try to open my code: "fatal error. facet 1.0 of tally 1 does not exist." I don´t know what exactly means these message. I hope this question isn´t silly.

Thank´s and nice to meet you.

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Hi,
Difficult to help you with no input file.
I suppose that you try to calculate a f1 tally on a surface but this surface is not describe in your input file.
 
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PSRB191921 said:
Hi,
Difficult to help you with no input file.
I suppose that you try to calculate a f1 tally on a surface but this surface is not describe in your input file.

Sorry, you're right, i'll give you my input file to review it. I was thinking that the problem is in my cell card but I've been checking the file and don't find some error because VISED plot my geometry. Thanks a lot.

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Geomtry 15 is strange
15 1 rcc ? I think it is the problem
It is better if you put your file in ascii in this forum
 
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The geometry 15 is a rigth circular cilinder at the middle of the canon rotated 135 degrees. I found in the MCNP manual (page 4-15) that´s the way to rotate the geometry, maybe i use it in a wrong way. Here's my code:

Fuente Cañon_Completo
c
c ******** Tarjeta de Cel *********
c
1 1 -7.874 -15 imp:e=1
2 0 (-1:-3:-5) 15 imp:e=1
3 1 -7.874 (-2:-4:-6:-8:-9:-10:-11:-12:-13) 1 3 5 imp:e=1
4 1 -7.874 2 4 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 -7 imp:e=1
5 2 -0.001205 2 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 -14 imp:e=1
6 3 -3.35 14 imp:e=1
c

c ****** Tarjeta de Superficie *****
c
1 RCC 0 0 0 84.3 0 0 1.85
2 RCC 0 0 0 84.3 0 0 2
3 RCC 37.8 0 0 0 9 0 1.85
4 RCC 37.8 0 0 0 9 0 2
5 RCC 37.8 0 0 0 -9 0 1.85
6 RCC 37.8 0 0 0 -9 0 2
7 RPP 84.3 89.3 -2.5 2.5 -1.5 1.5
8 RCC 0 0 0 1.2 0 0 3
9 RCC -1.2 0 0 1.2 0 0 3
10 RCC 37.8 7.8 0 0 1.2 0 3
11 RCC 37.8 9 0 0 1.2 0 3
12 RCC 37.8 -9 0 0 1.2 0 3
13 RCC 37.8 -10.2 0 0 1.2 0 3
14 BOX -142.5 -100 -100 285 0 0 0 200 0 0 0 200
15 1 RCC 0 0.90057 0 1.80114 0 0 0.2
c

c ******** Tarjeta de Datos ********
c
c $ Pantalla central angulada 135 sobre el eje x
c
TR1 38.7 0 0 -0.707 0.707 0 -0.707 -0.707 0 0 0 1
c
MODE e
c
c FUENTE PUNTUAL
SDEF POS=86.3 0 0 AXS=-1 0 0 RAD=d1 PAR=3 ERG=0.08 VEC=-1 0 0 DIR=1
SI1 0 1.85
SP1 -21 1
c
c MATERIALES
c
c Air (0.001205 g/cm^3)
M2 6000 -0.000124 &
7014 -0.755268 &
8016 -0.231781 &
18000 -0.012827
c
c Barite Concrete (3.35 g/cm^3)
M3 1001 -0.003585 &
8016 -0.311622 &
12000 -0.001195 &
13027 -0.004183 &
14000 -0.010457 &
16000 -0.107858 &
20000 -0.050194 &
26000 -0.047505 &
56138 -0.463400
c
c Iron (7.874 g/cm^3)
M1 26000 -1.000000
c
c TALLY
c
f1:e (1 3 5) (7 15) T
f2:e (1 3 5) (7) 15
f4:e 1 4
c Energia inicial, conteos, Energia final (Tally energy)
E0 0 500i 0.08
c
NPS 1e7
prdmp 1e7 1e6 0 1
print
c
c
c Fin
 

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