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Mike Cookson said:
That was my thought: I wonder if they intend to use K9...? I suppose that's why the doctor was so kind as to rebuild him; esp seeing as how that episode was a pilot.
Dr. Who Returns to SciFi March 17th at 9PM!
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The discussion revolves around the return of the television series Doctor Who on the SciFi channel, scheduled for March 17th at 9 PM. Participants share their experiences with the show, express opinions on the new series, and reflect on the original series, touching on themes of nostalgia, character development, and the show's evolution over time.
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants express nostalgia for the classic series, highlighting their favorite Doctors and memorable moments.
- Others critique the new series as being "silly" or underwhelming compared to the original, while some find it worthy of its tradition.
- Several participants discuss specific episodes, noting elements like the "sentient plastic" and the emotional depth of the Doctor's character.
- There are mixed feelings about the special effects, with some preferring the charm of older techniques over modern computer-generated imagery.
- Some participants mention the casting choices for the female lead, discussing how they differ from typical sci-fi portrayals.
- There is a mention of the cliffhanger nature of certain episodes, with questions about unresolved plot points and character fates.
- Participants reflect on the show's ability to surprise them and the unique storytelling elements it employs.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally express a mix of opinions, with some enjoying the new series and others feeling it does not live up to the classic. There is no consensus on the quality of the new episodes, and discussions about specific elements remain contested.
Contextual Notes
Some discussions reference specific episodes and character developments without resolving the implications of these plot points. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with both the old and new series, which influences their perspectives.
Who May Find This Useful
Fans of Doctor Who, viewers interested in science fiction television, and those nostalgic for classic series may find this discussion engaging.
That was my thought: I wonder if they intend to use K9...? I suppose that's why the doctor was so kind as to rebuild him; esp seeing as how that episode was a pilot.
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Which episode was a pilot? That episode of Doctor Who? It wasn't a pilot in the UK it was well into the second or third new series.
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Anybody watch Torchwood (an anagram of Doctor Who) another spin off with Captain Jack?
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Mike Cookson said:
TV producers often create "pilots" for new shows as episodes of existing shows. It is a way to test the concept on the cheap. If you shoot a regular pilot and the show doesn't sell, you are out the cost of production. Shot as an episode of an existing show, even if it doesn't sell you have an episode to air that you would have had to shoot anyway.
For instance, the Andy Griffith Show pilot was shown as an episode of the Danny Thomas Show, and the Star Trek episode "Assignment Earth" was meant to be a pilot for a new episode (It didn't sell).
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I know what a pilot is, I'm just confused as to what was shown as the pilot. I'm assuming this is in the states. Pilots rarely occur in the UK.
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Mike Cookson said:
They are talking about the episode of Dr. Who with Sarah Jane. We here in the US saw it just as you did, as a regular episode of Dr. Who during the second or third series. But that does not mean it couldn't have also been a pilot for the new show with Sarah Jane. (as I mentioned above, this is a common practice.)
I guess the real question is, was it shot as a pilot, or did the idea for the spin-off occur afterward? (Again, a common occurrence, Both "Laverne and Shirley" and "Mork and Mindy" were based on characters introduced in "Happy Days" episodes, but those episodes were not originally meant as vehicles to launch the new series.)
We don't always see the pilot episodes of series in the US either. Sometimes the show changes significantly between the shooting of the pilot and airing, and thus airing the pilot as the first episode would be awkward.
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Ah right, I understand. I don't think I have actually seen an aired pilot for a UK program. I have seen some claimed to be pilots after the date but I never heard of one being aired, at the time so to speak. Most 'pilots' for UK TV are fairly old now too, as if they don't bother any more.
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Janus said:
And Happy Days first piloted as an episode on Love American Style.
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Art said:
It is a pretty good show but it gets too torchy at times!
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Is it just me or does Sarah Jane really suck?
Obviously this show was intended for kids.
Regarding pilot episodes: Turns out that Love American Style was known as the graveyard for failed pilots. The Happy Days pilot had been rejected but was picked up after it ran as an episode on LAS.
Obviously this show was intended for kids.
Regarding pilot episodes: Turns out that Love American Style was known as the graveyard for failed pilots. The Happy Days pilot had been rejected but was picked up after it ran as an episode on LAS.
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