Driving Etiquette: Waving After Pulling Out

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the etiquette of waving to other drivers when merging or pulling out into traffic. Participants explore various scenarios, including when to wave, how often to wave, and the implications of waving in relation to safety and communication on the road.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest waving as soon as they take advantage of another driver's courtesy, while others argue that acknowledgment should occur only after safely completing the maneuver.
  • Several participants express a strong inclination to wave multiple times to show appreciation, while others feel that one wave is sufficient.
  • One participant raises concerns about the potential for miscommunication, noting that waving could be misinterpreted as an indication that it is safe to proceed, which could lead to accidents.
  • There are differing opinions on whether to maintain eye contact with the other driver during the acknowledgment process, with some advocating for it to ensure clarity of intentions.
  • Some participants humorously suggest extreme gestures, such as blowing kisses or jumping on the hood of the other car, to express gratitude.
  • One participant recounts a legal case where a driver was sued for waving another driver through, highlighting the complexities of responsibility in traffic situations.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety implications of waving, with some emphasizing the importance of focusing on the road rather than engaging with other drivers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best practice for waving while merging or pulling out. There are multiple competing views regarding the timing and frequency of waves, as well as the implications for safety and communication.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific legal cases and personal experiences that illustrate the potential risks associated with waving, indicating a need for caution. The discussion reflects a variety of personal preferences and interpretations of driving etiquette.

Where do you wave to a courteous driver?

  • At A

    Votes: 22 64.7%
  • At B

    Votes: 5 14.7%
  • Both

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • Neither

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    34
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When another driver makes room to let you cut through, where is the appropriate place to wave back? When you first acknowledge the offer, or at the last moment when you are done taking advantage of it?

When I pull out (A), I always feel I've got to wave as soon as I take advantage of their offer. But then, as I come abreast of them (B) (closest approach), I always feel I need to wave again, in case they didn't see the first one and think I'm ungrateful.

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I'm pitifully grateful when anyone shows the least bit of driving courtesy. I way, way overdo the thank-you waves.
 
I wave both times to let them know I appreciate them. Can't wave too much.
 
I wave at A and look the opposite way to avoid any awkward stares I might receive at point B.
 
I write their plate number down and send it to the Illuminati. The Illuminati punish anyone who betrays game theory.
 
I wave as I'm making the turn, but am careful not to slow down my turning by waving. I hate it when someone I'm letting go takes forever to actually GO because they're busy waving.

In converse, though, I never wave on another driver. I will leave them room and wait for them to get out, but I won't wave to tell them to go. The only reason for that is because someone actually got sued and lost for doing it several years ago when the ninny making the turn didn't bother looking the OTHER way and got into an accident. They interpreted the wave as "all clear." I personally think you and you alone are responsible for ensuring you can complete a turn and no other vehicles are coming when you pull out to make a turn, but apparently not all courts do.
 
A. acknowledge as you're moving out, not before so as not to give confusing "body language" of "oh no, you go first". then, safe driving takes priority, and it's more important to be looking both ways and ahead instead of flirting with other drivers.
 
Always after. When I am waved through, I immediately start driving and so my attention is riveted. After I have straightened out and stabilized my situation I acknowledge. I never look to see if my acknowledgment was received. When I wave someone else through I keep my word and do not move until they are through. If they refuse the invitation, I go.
 
About the only time I need someone to make room for me is when I need to merge onto a freeway. In this case a smile and a wave as I move ahead and then once I am completely in the lane in front, I give a wave again to thank them.
 
  • #10
I blow kisses.
 
  • #11
Math Is Hard said:
I blow kisses.

You're brilliant! :approve:
 
  • #12
I waive to them, less four fingers. :)
 
  • #13
GeorginaS said:
You're brilliant! :approve:
Except in some places, a man blowing kisses at another man might end up in a shooting.
 
  • #14
The reason for waving (acknowledging) @ A is to make dang sure he's really going to let you through. Good eye contact helps you know his true intentions.
 
  • #15
dlgoff said:
The reason for waving (acknowledging) @ A is to make dang sure he's really going to let you through. Good eye contact helps you know his true intentions.

Absolutely. But do you then ignore him at B?

That's why I end up at option 3 (both).
 
  • #16
Yes, ignore. By the time you are at B, you should be paying attention of what's in front of you.
 
  • #17
Also, if you hold a gun out of your window while at position A, the other drivers will stop and let you through. Be sure to shake gun at driver while at position B with an angry expression.

Works for me anyways.
 
  • #18
MotoH said:
... with an angry expression.

Why do you think they call them expressways?
 
  • #19
DaveC426913 said:
Why do you think they call them expressways?

and freeways. I am free to do what I want am I not?
 
  • #20
Cyrus said:
I waive to them, less four fingers. :)

I hope that's a "thumbs up"
 
  • #21
In the diagram you posted, it would definitely be B - after I've successfully completed the turn.

If a car coming the opposite direction T-bones me in the middle of my turn, I delete the wave completely.
 
  • #22
BobG said:
If a car coming the opposite direction T-bones me in the middle of my turn, I delete the wave completely.
Good call, good call.
 
  • #23
I wave at A. Then I just drive off.
 
  • #24
I get out of the car, run over, and jump on the hood of their car for a full body car hug as I weep and whisper "thank you thank you thank you."

or

I give a little nod and wave at A and proceed after I have made sure that we know what each other are doing.
 
  • #25
TheStatutoryApe said:
I get out of the car, run over, and jump on the hood of their car for a full body car hug as I weep and whisper "thank you thank you thank you."
Damn. Now I have to add another option to the poll.
 
  • #26
I'll do just about anything to avoid getting in that situation. For example, I'll turn right and go around the block.

Mostly I do this to avoid frustration at how many people won't stop short a few feet to let a car cross in front of them. But also, to avoid being hit like BobG described.
 
  • #27
Moonbear said:
I wave as I'm making the turn, but am careful not to slow down my turning by waving. I hate it when someone I'm letting go takes forever to actually GO because they're busy waving.

Same here. Never let others regret their good will. I am waving when there is the highest chance they can see me.

someone actually got sued and lost for doing it several years ago when the ninny making the turn didn't bother looking the OTHER way and got into an accident. They interpreted the wave as "all clear."

God bless America before it is too late.
 
  • #28
You should wave right when you confirm he's letting you out. The rest of the time you should be watching the road. Even when you pull out and you're in front of him, you should be looking right and checking if any cars are coming before you pull into the lane.
Just one courtesy wave is good enough. You don't need to get out and give them a hug.

But, sometimes those people need something besides a wave; they need a punch in the face.
I'll use your picture as an example.
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The person let's the other person out and the person coming in the other lane hits them.
I've seen that happen twice and I've almost hit countless people who were coming out like that. The person letting them out is blocking the view of cars coming in the other lane.
 
  • #29
leroyjenkens said:
You should wave right when you confirm he's letting you out. The rest of the time you should be watching the road. Even when you pull out and you're in front of him, you should be looking right and checking if any cars are coming before you pull into the lane.
Just one courtesy wave is good enough. You don't need to get out and give them a hug.

But, sometimes those people need something besides a wave; they need a punch in the face.
I'll use your picture as an example.
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The person let's the other person out and the person coming in the other lane hits them.
I've seen that happen twice and I've almost hit countless people who were coming out like that. The person letting them out is blocking the view of cars coming in the other lane.
I've had people stop to let me go, but any time there are 2 or more lanes going the same direction and from observation, I either know there are other cars coming, or if I'm not in a position to see clearly, I smile and shake my head no and motion them to proceed. Anyone that pulls out if they don't know all lanes are clear and crash have no one to blame but themselves. If that was a real judgement, I would have it appealed. The guy could have been waving to someone or swatting at a fly. You don't take traffic directions from anyone other than a traffic cop, even then, I look in all directions to make sure the other cars are following his directions.
 
  • #30
I've had people stop to let me go, but any time there are 2 or more lanes going the same direction and from observation, I either know there are other cars coming, or if I'm not in a position to see clearly, I smile and shake my head no and motion them to proceed. Anyone that pulls out if they don't know all lanes are clear and crash have no one to blame but themselves.
You're exactly right. Sometimes they'll slowly stick their nose out checking for traffic. I have no idea what they're going to do, so I'm forced to slow down if I'm the one coming towards them in the other lane. Since they're having to look both directions, since they're pulling out to the left into the lane going the other way, they may not see me the first time they look because I'm obscured by a car, then when they finally pull out after looking the other way, I smash into them. So it may not be complete negligence, but it's still their fault, and regardless of who they blame, my car is still destroyed.
If that was a real judgement, I would have it appealed. The guy could have been waving to someone or swatting at a fly.
It's hard to believe that's a real judgement. You hear all the time about ridiculous cases that go to court and win. I think they may have gone to court, but the "they won" part, was added later for effect. It's hard to even fathom winning a case like that. Judges aren't perfect, but they're not that illogical.
 

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