Dynamics Problem (suitcase pulled across floor find Fn)

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The discussion revolves around a dynamics problem involving a suitcase being pulled across the floor at an angle, specifically focusing on finding the normal force. The context includes considerations of forces acting on the suitcase and the implications of missing information.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of knowing the pulling force and whether to assume constant acceleration. There is uncertainty about the inclusion of the vertical component of the pulling force in the normal force calculation.

Discussion Status

The discussion highlights a lack of sufficient information to solve the problem directly. Some participants suggest that without the pulling force or additional details, determining the normal force is challenging. Others mention that assumptions about acceleration and the coefficient of friction are critical for progressing.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the assignment requires completion without additional information for part a, despite some feeling that it may not be feasible. The mention of a coefficient of kinetic friction for part b suggests that it may play a role in the overall understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


At the airport, you pull a 20 suitcase across the floor with a strap that is at an angle of 42° above the horizontal.Find the Normal Force.


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I have broken it down into all equations with just variables trying so solve for the normal force but i just can't seem to get it i don't know if i assume constant acceleration or not and if the Force applied Y is included in the normal force or if it is separate i am fairly certain it is separate but i could be wrong. Any help at all will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
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Looks to me like some information is missing in the problem statement. Have you posted the complete problem word for word as given?
 
There is info given for part b but for this part (part a) my assignment expects me to complete it without any other info, but it seems to me that it can not be done, but often I know the imposible is possible in physics, hence why I came here :P
 
Well, unless you are told the pulling force (or are given enough information to figure it out, which does not appear to be the case) there's not much you can do to find the normal force.

What additional information is given for part b?
 
Doc Al said:
(or are given enough information to figure it out,
.. such as, coefficient of kinetic friction, e.g.
 
hi chiuda! :smile:
chiuda said:
… i don't know if i assume constant acceleration or not and if the Force applied Y is included in the normal force or if it is separate i am fairly certain it is separate but i could be wrong. Any help at all will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance.

you should assume the acceleration is zero

even so, you can't find the normal force without knowing µ :redface:
 
Ya ot gives me coeff of kin friction and assume acceleration is zero in part be and qith that I know how to do it but I just wanted to see if you could do it without it for A because it wasnt given for that part
 
ok i used the info from B and got it, thanks physics friends :)
 

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