Magnitude of normal force question

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The problem involves a woman pulling a suitcase at an angle, requiring the calculation of the normal force acting on the suitcase due to the floor. The scenario includes coefficients of static and kinetic friction, as well as the mass of the suitcase.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the applied force, normal force, and friction. Questions arise regarding which coefficient of friction to use and how to determine if the suitcase will slide.

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Some participants have attempted calculations for the normal force and frictional force, while others are exploring the implications of using static versus kinetic friction. There is acknowledgment of the need to overcome static friction for motion to occur, and some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between forces.

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Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and applications of static and kinetic friction in the context of the problem. There is a mention of the need for clarity in the physics language used in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A woman pulls on her suitcase with a force of 105N at an angle of 38 degrees above the horizontal. The coefficients of static and kinetic friction between and suitcase and the floor are 0.273 and 0.117. The mass of the suitcase is 36 kg. what is the magnitude of the normal force acting on the suitcase due to the floor?

Homework Equations



normal force - weight + vertical component =0

The Attempt at a Solution



N - mg +105 sin 38=0

N=36kg*9.8m/s/s - 105 sin 38 = 288N

So I have figured out the magnitude of the normal force, but I don't know if the suitcase will slide. How do I figure that out?
 
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Well for the suitcase to move, her horizontal force must be greater than the force of friction. How does friction relate to the normal force and which coefficient of friction would determine if it will move, static or kinetic?
 
rock.freak667 said:
Well for the suitcase to move, her horizontal force must be greater than the force of friction. How does friction relate to the normal force and which coefficient of friction would determine if it will move, static or kinetic?

Okay, but I'm given two different frictions, but I chose to work with kinetic because I know it's to do with motion... Or at least pretty sure.

Ff = u(288N)
Ff = 0.117 x 288N
Ff = 33.696

That's so little :S So since she's pushing with 105 N, the suitcase DOES move, correct??
 
JadeLove said:
Okay, but I'm given two different frictions, but I chose to work with kinetic because I know it's to do with motion... Or at least pretty sure.

Ff = u(288N)
Ff = 0.117 x 288N
Ff = 33.696

That's so little :S So since she's pushing with 105 N, the suitcase DOES move, correct??

The kinetic friction is used when the body is already moving, in order for motion to occur you'd need to overcome static friction first. But once Fapplied<Ff, then no motion will occur.
 
Thank you makes sense, I got my answer my brother helped & showed me. Although I think you could have been a liiiiittle more like, well :D the formula for calculating Fs is etc, you know? Because you're too smart, & I don't really get it physics language, but now I get what you meant form the starts, thanks ^___^

Jade
 
JadeLove said:
Thank you makes sense, I got my answer my brother helped & showed me. Although I think you could have been a liiiiittle more like, well :D the formula for calculating Fs is etc, you know? Because you're too smart, & I don't really get it physics language, but now I get what you meant form the starts, thanks ^___^

Jade

But you knew what to do! You started correctly by calculating the normal force utilizing the vertical component. I tried to make it simple by how I wrote the second post. (you had all the formulas correct, so I assumed you knew had all the formulas correct)
 

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