E.coli with minimal media problem, HELP

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The discussion focuses on determining gene order in an E. coli strain that cannot synthesize five specific compounds. The user is unsure how to analyze the data provided in an attached file, which is intended to illustrate the genetic problem. The solution involves mapping possible gene orders and predicting recombinant phenotypes based on double crossover events, while considering that single crossovers would disrupt the chromosome. Participants emphasize the need to identify combinations that exclude three genes or fix two genes, given that all plates contain three amino acids. The overall goal is to clarify the genetic relationships and recombination outcomes based on the data presented.
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Homework Statement


in the picture/attached file



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The Attempt at a Solution


don't know how to start it off. I know the E.coli strain can't make the 5 compounds and the colonies present indicate which gene it's missing but I don't know how to determine the gene order from the data.

can someone give me a hint, please?

thanks
 
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Can you post the a link to the picture or explained the data?

The attached file is not present.
 
sorry about that, here's the file.
 

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That's classical way to do genetics.

The solution is based on recombination and the chance of unique, double, triple, quadruple, etc, cross-over to occur. In that problem you'll have to assume that only double cross-over occurred. Triple and quadruple are very unlikely and single would destroy the chromosome.

So to start it up, you need to draw a map of all possible gene order (painful task) and look at all the possible location for cross-over and predict the possible recombinant and phenotype.

For example

Donor DNA___A______B______C_________D________E_____
Cross-over_1______2_____3_______4_________5_______6
Recipent____a_______b______c________d_________e______

Possible recombination ABCDE, aBCDE, Abcde, etc

Phenotype: doesn't need any compound, need compound a, need compound bcde, etc

Since all your plate have three amino acid added, you only have to look at recombination that exclude 3 genes / fix two genes.
 
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