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The discussion centers on the hypothesis that albedo variation is a critical factor in understanding global warming, as proposed by Jan Veizer and supported by the study "Can Earth's Albedo and Surface Temperatures Increase Together?" by Pallé et al. (2006). The author argues that stagnation in global temperatures since 1998 correlates with albedo changes, estimating a 57.5% correlation based on GISS data. The analysis suggests that solar magnetic fields influence albedo, leading to increased insolation and subsequent global warming, while also indicating that oceanic feedback mechanisms mitigate temperature increases.

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E-mail to Jan Veizer

Subject: The missing link is albedo variation (Pallé et al, EOS Jan 2006)

I've read about your quest for the alternative explanation for global warming here.

<http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=3d885041-2faf-4806-bca8-d8f27e2f38de&k=75278 >

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"Veizer theorized that there might be something, directly linked to solar radiation, that amplifies the sun's effect."

Exactly, I think that you are fully correct and that missing link is albedo variation. The Pallé et al (2006) study holds the key, but the researcher appeared to be completely unaware of that.

http://www.bbso.njit.edu/~epb/reprints/Palle_etal_EOS_2006.pdf

"Can Earth's Albedo and Surface Temperatures Increase Together?"

But that's not happening. Since the temperatures are stagnating after 1998 together with the albedo. When I saw fig 2 for the first time I estimated the r2 of the global temperatures (GISS) and albedo variation to be at least 50% and I was right: 57,5%.

http://home.wanadoo.nl/bijkerk/albedo-temp.GIF

and

http://home.wanadoo.nl/bijkerk/albedo2.GIF

Now if you apply Stefan Boltzmann on the 10% albedo variation this would give a blackbody temperature variation of some 2.75 K but in reality it is only 0,5 degrees, which suggests that the oceans provided a strong negative feedback by adsorption of the insolation and getting warming up in the process. Of course IR re-radiation caused by greenhouse gas effect cannot penetrate water and could not have caused the ocean heating.

So with this albedo variation the sequence appears to be the old hypothesis: Increase of Solar magnetic induced field -> deflection of particles towards the poles -> less condensation nuclei -> Less clouds, lower albedo -> more insolation -> global warming.

That should settle the science, I would think.

Just showing that the global warming of the previous decennium can be explained by natural factors.
 
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