Eigenfunctions and eigenvalues

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The discussion centers around the nature of eigenfunctions and eigenvalues, specifically examining whether the function exp(-kx) qualifies as an eigenfunction of the differential operator d/dx. The scope includes theoretical aspects of quantum mechanics and mathematical definitions related to eigenfunctions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that exp(-kx) could be an eigenfunction, but it depends on the context of the operator it is associated with.
  • One participant notes that eigenfunctions must correspond to a specific operator, which can be a matrix or an infinite-dimensional operator, and that exp(-kx) may not represent a physical eigenfunction due to its behavior at negative infinity.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the determination of whether a function is an eigenfunction requires knowing the specific equation or operator in question.
  • It is mentioned that if the operator is d/dx, then the relationship defining eigenfunctions and eigenvalues involves the operator acting on the function yielding the same function multiplied by an eigenvalue.
  • One participant clarifies that under certain boundary conditions, such as restricting the domain to 0 ≤ x < ∞, exp(-kx) could be an acceptable eigenfunction.
  • A later reply confirms that if d/dx acts on exp(-kx) resulting in -k.exp(-kx), then exp(-kx) is indeed an eigenfunction with eigenvalue -k.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions under which exp(-kx) can be considered an eigenfunction. While some agree on its validity under specific conditions, others highlight the importance of context and boundary conditions, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding its general applicability.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on boundary conditions and the specific operator being considered, which affects whether exp(-kx) can be classified as an eigenfunction.

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is exp (-kx) an eigenfunction?
 
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Well, it could be, but ...

eigenfunctions have to be eigenfunctions of something. Namely, a matrix, or an operator (which is like a matrix, but often infinite-dimensional). They're mathematical entities which can represent physical entities. Your function could certainly be an eigenfunction of a mathematical operator, but it probably wouldn't be a physical eigenfunction. (Since this is the quantum physics forum I assume physical QM-related eigenfunctions are the main interest.)

Physical observables like momentum, position, energy are represented by operators in a Hilbert Space, and they have eigenfunctions - also called eigenvectors or eigenstates.

The thing is, normally k is used for a real number, and I assume it is here. The reason your function is unlikely to be a physical eigenfunction is that it blows up at negative infinity (supposing k is positive). If your function were only defined on the positive real number axis it could be a physical eigenfunction, because it goes to 0 and is square integrable.

In fact it can appear in tunneling problems; is that where you got it?

More likely you're probably missing an "i": it should be exp(-ikx). If k is square root (2mE) / hbar, for instance, then this could be a typical eigenfunction for the energy of a free particle (non-relativistic, time-independent).
 
Amy B said:
is exp (-kx) an eigenfunction?
That's like asking "Is 23 an answer?" - it might be, but we have to know what the question is first.

An eigenfunction is a solution to an equation (of a particular type) so if you give me a function and ask if it's an eigenfunction, I have to answer that it depends on what equation you had in mind.
 
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oops, I forgot to mention that the operator is d/dx
 
OK, so what is the general relationship that defines the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues of an operator? If function f is an eigenfunction of operator O, with eigenvalue E, what relationship has to be true?
 
Amy B said:
is exp (-kx) an eigenfunction?

In quantum mechanics, the set of possible wave functions depends on the boundary conditions. With the usual one-dimensional case in which space is the real numbers -\infty &lt; x &lt; +\infty, the boundary condition is that \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |\psi(x)|^2 dx &lt; \infty. In the case of e^{-kx}, this integral is not defined (because that function goes to infinity as x \rightarrow -\infty.

On the other hand, if space (or the portion of space that is occupied by the particle) is a semi-infinite region 0 \leq x &lt; \infty, then that function is perfectly acceptable.
 
jtbell said:
OK, so what is the general relationship that defines the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues of an operator? If function f is an eigenfunction of operator O, with eigenvalue E, what relationship has to be true?

if the operator O acts on the function F, then the function will be mapped to another function which is the same function f times an eigenvalue E.
so if d/dx exp(-kx) = -k.exp(-kx) the eigenvalue E is -k and the function f remains exp(-kx), so I think this should be an eigenfunction, but just want to be sure.
 
Amy B said:
so if d/dx exp(-kx) = -k.exp(-kx) the eigenvalue E is -k and the function f remains exp(-kx)

Correct! :woot:

To re-phrase it slightly, ##e^{-kx}## is an eigenfunction of ##\frac{d}{dx}##, with eigenvalue ##-k##.
 

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