Eigenstates of the Hamiltonian

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The discussion centers around the concept of eigenstates of the Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics, exploring the implications of a system being in such an eigenstate, the nature of the Hamiltonian as an operator, and the relationship between eigenstates and energy levels. The scope includes conceptual clarifications and technical explanations related to quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the meaning of a system being in an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian, questioning whether this implies the energy is a multiple of the total energy.
  • One participant clarifies that the Hamiltonian is an operator, referred to as the "energy operator," and not the total energy itself, indicating that being in an eigenstate means the system has a specific energy corresponding to the eigenvalue of the Hamiltonian.
  • Another participant suggests that if a system is in a superposition of eigenstates, it does not carry a specific energy, and probabilities can be assigned to measuring specific outcomes based on the coefficients of the superposition.
  • One participant notes that the rate of change of the state vector is related to the eigenstate, implying that the shape of the state function is preserved over time.
  • It is mentioned that having a list of eigenstates corresponds to the possible energy levels of a particle, but the specific energy level observed upon measurement remains uncertain until the measurement occurs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the Hamiltonian and its relationship to energy, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the precise implications of being in an eigenstate.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of terms like "Hamiltonian" and "eigenstate," as well as unresolved nuances regarding the implications of superposition and measurement in quantum mechanics.

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When one says that a system is in an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian, what exactly does this mean?
I mean, if the Hamiltonian is the total energy of the system, then if it is in an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian, is this saying that its energy is a multiple of its total energy? Obviously this makes no sense. I hope you can see where I'm confused.
 
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The Hamiltonian is not the total energy of the system. It is an operator. -- not a physical quantity. It is, however, referred to as the "energy operator".

If a system is in an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian, then the energy carries a specific energy, which is precisely the eigenvalue of the Hamiltonian.

If a system is in a superposition of eigenstates, then it simply doesn't carry a specific energy. Correspondingly, you can make some statements about the probability of measuring a specific outcome (the usual "coefficient squared").

But anyways, the morale of the story: the Hamiltonian is not equal to the total energy. A system doesn't even have to carry a specific energy, but can be in a superposition.
 
Master J said:
When one says that a system is in an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian, what exactly does this mean?
I mean, if the Hamiltonian is the total energy of the system, then if it is in an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian, is this saying that its energy is a multiple of its total energy? Obviously this makes no sense. I hope you can see where I'm confused.

The thing that is an multiple of the state vector is actually the rate of change of the state vector. That's why the vector (state function) preserves its shape with the passage of time.
 
If you have a list of eigenstates of the Hamiltonian, you essentially have a list of the possible energy levels you might find the particle in. Which one you'll find it in you won't know until you measure it.
 

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