Eigenvalue of product of matrices

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between the eigenvalues of the product of two real symmetric matrices A and B, specifically regarding the trace of the product AB. Matrix A has zeros on its diagonal and off-diagonal terms that are either 0 or 1, while matrix B has zeros on its diagonal and positive real numbers as off-diagonal terms. The trace of the product is expressed as tr(AB) = ∑ijaj,ibi,j, with bounds established as 0 ≤ tr(AB) ≤ ∑ijbi,j. Given that A is sparse, the bounds on the trace are noted to be potentially loose.

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I have two real symmetric matrices A and B with the following additional properties. I would like to know how the eigenvalues of the product AB, is related to those of A and B? In particular what is \mathrm{trace}(AB)?

A contains only 0s on its diagonal. Off diagonal terms are either 0 or 1.
B also contains only 0s on its diagonal. Its off diagonal terms are positive real numbers.

If equalities don't exist, some bounds would also be helpful.

Thanks.
 
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mnov said:
I have two real symmetric matrices A and B with the following additional properties. I would like to know how the eigenvalues of the product AB, is related to those of A and B? In particular what is \mathrm{trace}(AB)?

A contains only 0s on its diagonal. Off diagonal terms are either 0 or 1.
B also contains only 0s on its diagonal. Its off diagonal terms are positive real numbers.

If equalities don't exist, some bounds would also be helpful.

Thanks.
Let ##a_{i,j}## be the element of matrix A from row i and column j, and let ##b_{i,j}## be the element of matrix A from row i and column j. Then,
$$\operatorname{tr}(\textbf{AB})=\sum_{i}\sum_{j}a_{j,i}b_{i,j}.$$
Thus, from the fact that the non-diagonal terms of A are either 0 or 1, we obtain the bounds that
$$0 \leq \operatorname{tr}(\textbf{AB}) \leq \sum_{i}\sum_{j}b_{i,j}.$$
 
Thanks.
I forgot to mention that A is sparse, i.e., most of its off diagonal terms are zero. So the above bound would be pretty bad.
 
mnov said:
Thanks.
I forgot to mention that A is sparse, i.e., most of its off diagonal terms are zero. So the above bound would be pretty bad.
Do you have bounds on the sparsity of the matrix? I could probably do a little better with an idea of how dense the matrix is. Also, is there any idea as to the size of the matrices?

I have nothing to do and I want something to work on. :-p
 
A is an n x n matrix. m = constant * n of the off diagonal terms are 1. n is large.
 
So you have a bound like the trace is smaller than
m* max_{i,j}\left{ b_{ij} \right}
 
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