Eigenvalues and diagonalization of a matrix

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The discussion revolves around the diagonalization of a matrix, specifically focusing on the order of eigenvalues in the diagonal matrix and its relationship with the corresponding eigenvectors. Participants explore the implications of ordering and the concept of ordered bases in linear algebra.

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  • One participant questions how to determine the order of eigenvalues in a diagonal matrix, noting that different orders yield different matrices.
  • Another participant suggests that the order of eigenvalues should match the order of the corresponding eigenvectors in the transformation matrix, asserting that consistency is key.
  • A third participant agrees with the previous point, emphasizing that as long as the eigenvectors are in the same order as the eigenvalues, the diagonalization process remains valid.
  • Further, a participant explains that an ordered basis for a vector space allows for the representation of a linear operator, and changing the order of eigenvalues corresponds to changing the order of the basis vectors.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of maintaining the correspondence between eigenvalues and eigenvectors in their respective orders. However, there is an underlying complexity regarding the implications of changing the order of eigenvalues and the representation of linear operators, which remains somewhat unresolved.

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The discussion touches on the concept of ordered bases and the representation of linear operators, but does not delve into specific examples or mathematical proofs. There may be assumptions about the familiarity with linear algebra concepts that are not explicitly stated.

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This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners of linear algebra, particularly those interested in matrix theory, eigenvalues, and eigenvectors.

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When you diagonalize a matrix the diagonal elements are the eigenvalues but how do you know which order to put the eigenvalues in the diagonal elements as different orders give different matrices ?
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The same order as the matrix with your eigenvectors. If I recall correctly, so long as those two have their columns corresponding with each other, it's fine; you'll transform your matrix to a diagonal one, then later on you'll transform back. If it's self-consistent, the properties you're looking for should be conserved.
(But I'm not an expert on this, so hopefully there will be more input!)
 
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ModestyKing needn't be so modest, he is correct :smile:
 
If an n by n matrix A has n independent eigenvectors, the there exist a matrix B such that D= B^{-1}AB is a diagonal matrix having the eigenvalues on the diagonal. B is the matrix having the corresponding eigenvectors as columns

What ModestyKing and DrClaude are saying is that the eigenvalues can be any order- as long as you have the eigenvectors, forming the columns of matrix B, in the same order.
 
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An ordered basis for an n-dimensional vector space V is an n-tuple ##(e_1,\dots,e_n)## such that ##\{e_1,\dots,e_n\}## is a basis for V

The component n-tuple of a vector ##x## with respect to an ordered basis ##(e_1,\dots,e_n)## is the unique n-tuple of scalars ##(x_1,\dots,x_n)## such that ##x=\sum_{i=1}^n x_i e_i##.

The matrix of components of a linear operator ##A## with respect to an ordered basis ##(e_1,\dots,e_n)## is the n×n matrix [A] defined by ##[A]_{ij}=(Ae_j)_i##. (The right-hand side denotes the ##i##th component of ##Ae_j## with respect to ##(e_1,\dots,e_n)##). This matrix is diagonal if and only if the ##e_i## are eigenvectors of the linear operator ##A##.

Every matrix is the matrix of components of some linear operator, with respect to some ordered basis. To change the order of the non-zero numbers in a diagonal matrix, is to change the order of the vectors in the ordered basis. You end up with a representation of the same linear operator, with respect to a different ordered basis.
 
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