Eigenvalues and ground state eigenfunction of a weird Hamiltonian

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The discussion revolves around the eigenvalues and ground state eigenfunction of a Hamiltonian defined as H = Aa^+a + B(a^+ + a). Participants explore the implications of the Hamiltonian's structure, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics, and seek clarification on the use of creation and annihilation operators.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of c-number constants in the context of the Hamiltonian.
  • Another participant asserts that the Hamiltonian represents a "shifted harmonic oscillator" and discusses the canonical conventions of creation and annihilation operators.
  • There is a suggestion that the eigenvalues and wavefunctions might be shifted by a constant in this scenario, although this is not universally agreed upon.
  • A participant asks for clarification on how to obtain the eigenvalues using the usual eigenvalue problem, indicating confusion about the process.
  • One participant proposes defining new creation and annihilation operators to simplify the Hamiltonian, suggesting a method to express it in a more manageable form.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about using the translated operators and seeks further guidance on ladder operators.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the Hamiltonian and the implications for eigenvalues and wavefunctions. There is no consensus on the approach to solving the eigenvalue problem or the nature of the solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the canonical commutation relations and the structure of the Hamiltonian, but there are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and implications of the constants involved, as well as the specific methods for obtaining eigenvalues.

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Hello again everyone!

I would like to ask a question regarding this Hamiltonian that I encountered. The form is H = Aa^+a + B(a^+ + a). Then there is this question asking for the eigenvalues and ground state wavefunction in the coordinate basis. The only given conditions are, the commutator of a^+ and a is [a^+,a] = 1, and that A > 0 and B are c-number constants. I actually do not understand the meaning of c-number constants. Can anyone suggest how to attack this problem?
 
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Are you sure? The canonical convention is that [itex]\hat{a}[/itex] is the destruction and [itex]\hat{a}^{\dagger}[/itex] the creation operator for phonons. Then the commutator should read [itex][\hat{a},\hat{a}^{\dagger}]=1[/itex]. What you have here, is simply a "shifted harmonic oscillator". This problem you find solved in many textbooks on quantum mechanics.
 
vanhees71 said:
Are you sure? The canonical convention is that [itex]\hat{a}[/itex] is the destruction and [itex]\hat{a}^{\dagger}[/itex] the creation operator for phonons. Then the commutator should read [itex][\hat{a},\hat{a}^{\dagger}]=1[/itex]. What you have here, is simply a "shifted harmonic oscillator". This problem you find solved in many textbooks on quantum mechanics.

Ok, so a and a^+ are the annihilation and creation operators in the harmonic oscillator problem. I thought there are other operators. Thanks for your comment! Anyway, in this shifted harmonic oscillator case, do you expect that the solution for example, the eigenvalues are just shifted by a constant? I think the same is true for the wavefunction.
 
May I know how can I obtain the eigenvalues using the usual eigenvalue problem here? I am quite confused here now.
 
Define new creation and annihilation operators
[tex]\tilde a = a+c[/tex]
[tex]\tilde a^\dagger = a^\dagger + c[/tex]
where [itex]c[/itex] is a real constant. Choose [itex]c[/itex] so that the hamiltonian is
[tex]H=A \tilde a^\dagger \tilde a + d[/tex]
where [itex]d[/itex] is another constant. Note that
[tex][\tilde a, \tilde a^\dagger]=1[/tex]
 
Avodyne said:
Define new creation and annihilation operators
[tex]\tilde a = a+c[/tex]
[tex]\tilde a^\dagger = a^\dagger + c[/tex]
where [itex]c[/itex] is a real constant. Choose [itex]c[/itex] so that the hamiltonian is
[tex]H=A \tilde a^\dagger \tilde a + d[/tex]
where [itex]d[/itex] is another constant. Note that
[tex][\tilde a, \tilde a^\dagger]=1[/tex]

Hmmm, sounds ok. Thank you for your suggestion. But I am really new to ladder operators, how would you use this translated a+ and a?
 

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