Elastic collision: Help solving for unknowns

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision problem involving two balls, where the initial and final velocities of one ball are unknown. The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy equations but struggles to isolate the unknowns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for additional equations to solve for the unknown velocities. Some suggest looking for implied conditions in the problem, while others emphasize the importance of fully stating the problem for clarity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the necessity of additional information or equations, but no consensus has been reached on a specific approach to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not imply that one of the balls is at rest during the collision. The original poster has provided specific masses and velocities for the balls involved, indicating a time constraint due to an impending assignment deadline.

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Is it possible to solve for an elastic collision when vb and v'a are the two unknowns? I have been trying for a few hours to solve for either unknown using the conservation of momentum and the conservation of total kinetic energy equations but have come up with nothing. Can anyone help?

mava +mbvb = mav'a + mbv'b

1/2mav2a +1/2mbv2b = 1/2mav'2a + 1/2mbv'2b
 
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Hmmm. That equation there is not solvable unless you have another equation you can eliminate one of the unknown variables with.

Look carefully at the question and see if there any other information you can glean from it. For example, is it implied that one of the velocities is zero at any time? It might also help to write out the problem in full so someone can have a crack at it.
 
Nothing is implied about the second ball being at rest on collision. The problem states that two balls have a head on elastic collision. Ball (a) has a mass of 0.02kg and is moving at 3.0 m/s in the +x. Ball (b) has a mass of 0.035kg and a final velocity of 1.5m/s in the +x. I'm trying to find the initial velocity of ball (b) and the final velocity of (a). I have spent hours trying to come up with an equation through substitution that will get me either of the two unknowns but have not been able to figure anything out.
 
Anyone have any ideas? I have asked multiple friend for help and nobody seems to know how to work this problem. This assignment is due tomorrow.

Thank you in advance for any help
 

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