Elastic Collision: Solving for Velocity After Impact

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The problem involves an inelastic collision between a 70kg man and a 30kg boy on ice, where they move together after the collision. The final velocity is given, and the task is to determine the boy's velocity before the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of momentum, suggesting separate equations for the x and y components. There is uncertainty about how to apply these principles given only the final velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on breaking down the momentum equations and checking the notation. There is a mix of attempts to derive the boy's initial velocity, but no consensus on the correctness of the approaches has been reached.

Contextual Notes

One participant noted a potential misunderstanding in the problem's title, indicating it may be inelastic rather than elastic. The original poster expressed uncertainty about starting the problem and requested equations.

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Homework Statement




A 70kg man who is ice skating north collides with a 30kg boy who is ice skating west. Immediately after the collision, the man and boy are observed to be moving together with a velocity of 2m/s in a direction 37 degrees north of west. What was the magnitude of the boy's velocity before collision.

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I do not really know where to start. Could someone please list equations that are needed for this problem.
 
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i meant to title inelastic
 
use conservation of momentum, you should have an equation for the y-axis (north/south) and an equation for the x-axis (east/west)
 
I do not see how to use it when only the final velocity is given.
 
ok I am not sure if this is right, but i made the equation m2v2cos=m1v1'cos+m2v2'cos
and found v2 to equal 2.13 would that be my final answer?
 
usually good to break these down into momentum in x direction and y direction

<br /> M_{man}V_{man} \hat{y} = M_{final}V_{yfinal} \hat{y}<br />
<br /> M_{boy}V_{boy} \hat{x}=M_{final}V_{xfinal} \hat{x} <br />
<br /> M_{final} = M_{boy} + M_{man}<br />
<br /> V_{yfinal} = \left( 2 \frac{m}{s} \right) cos(37^{\circ})<br />
see if you can determine the other final V and solve, let me know if you have questions on notation and such
 
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Thanks I am good now
 
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