Elastic Collision with objects of equal masses

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around an elastic collision involving two objects of equal mass. The original poster attempts to determine the velocities of each mass after the collision, utilizing principles of momentum and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss setting up equations based on conservation laws but express difficulty in solving for unknown angles and velocities. Questions arise regarding the direction of forces during the collision and the geometric relationships involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the angles involved in the collision and how these relate to the conservation of momentum. Some guidance is being offered regarding geometric arguments, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to solving the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are constraints related to the assumptions of elastic collisions and the specific angles that need to be calculated. The discussion also touches on the challenge of applying theoretical concepts to practical scenarios.

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Homework Statement



Solve for the Velocity of each mass after the collision.

Homework Equations


Pi = Pf
Ki = Kf

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so I've tried setting up a system of equations to solve for the unknown velocity and angles. The problem is that I can't seem to find either unknown angle. I know that momentum for each axis must be conserved and that total energy must be conserved. That gives me three equations but I can't figure out how to solve for both the velocity and the angles. I do know that θ1 + θ2 = 90°

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In which direction is the force acting on ##m_2## during the collision directed?
 
45° below the horizon? I know it has something to do with this I'm just at a complete loss.
 
Zoidberg3001 said:
45° below the horizon? I know it has something to do with this I'm just at a complete loss.

What makes you say 45°? What is your rationale behind this? Can you make a geometric argument?
 
I can't but I think I see what your getting at. Because we know the distance between the center of the circles we should be able to calculate the angle. Using (.35/2)m and radius of .5m I get an angle 20.5 degrees below the horizon.
 
So, this gives you an angle. What will you do with it?
 
It gives me the angle of ∅2 and by extension ∅1. Because there are no other forces acting on m2 the impulse is in the same direction as the force, which also means that the momentum will be in the same direction. From there, using the conservation of momentum in both the x and y direction I can easily solve for the magnitude of each velocity.
 
Indeed, too bad I am always unable to put this into practise at the pool table ... :rolleyes:
(Although billiard ball collisions obviously are not elastic ...)
 

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