Electrical Discharge in Argon: Which Electrode is Bombarded?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of electrical discharge in argon gas between two electrodes, specifically focusing on which electrode is bombarded by ions and the implications for sputtering processes. The scope includes theoretical considerations, experimental setups, and practical applications related to sputtering and ion behavior in a gas discharge environment.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a setup with argon gas between two electrodes and queries which electrode is bombarded by ions.
  • Another participant suggests that argon ions (Ar+) are repelled by the positive terminal, indicating that the negative terminal (cathode) would be the target for bombardment.
  • A subsequent reply seeks confirmation of the understanding that once the voltage reaches a certain level, argon ions will be attracted to the cathode and cause sputtering.
  • One participant acknowledges the understanding but notes that typical sputtering systems are more complex than described.
  • Another participant mentions that sputtering usually occurs at low pressure and describes a specific setup with a cathode to anode ratio of 40:1, observing erosion of the anode and deposition on the cathode.
  • A later reply indicates that other parameters for sputtering may also be incorrect but draws from personal experience in the analysis.
  • One participant reveals their application is for carbon arc discharge and nanotube production in a vertical setup.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the parameters and conditions necessary for effective sputtering, with some agreement on the general behavior of ions in the discharge but no consensus on the specifics of the experimental setup.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings regarding the conditions for sputtering, such as pressure and other parameters that may not have been fully explored or defined in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers and practitioners in fields related to plasma physics, materials science, and nanotechnology may find this discussion relevant, particularly those interested in sputtering techniques and gas discharge phenomena.

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In an environment of Argon between two electrodes at a distance about 2 millimeter a current is discharged of about 19 amps and 30 volt DC.

Which electrode get bombarded with the ion to dislodge particles of the surface ?
 
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The argon ions are vastly more massive than the electrons. These will be Ar+, so should be repelled by the positive terminal. Thus you want your target to be on the negative terminal.
 
Thank you I was expecting that I needed some confirmation .
So I understand it . at time zero once the, voltage gets increased until it reaches the potential of the outer electron from Argon is removed at the Anode ( positive electrode ) then the Argon ion will go to the cathode ( negative electrode and collide with the surface and will sputter the surface of the Cathode . Do I have it rite ?
 
Sputtering is done usually at low pressure .

I have a situation of cathode to anode ratio of 40 : 1 and I have gas flowing in the area were the discharge is taking place . The anode gets eroded and I see some deposition of the anode on the cathode.
 
The other parameters are wrong for sputtering also ... but I used my experience with sputtering in the analysis.

What is your rig for?
 
Carbon ark discharge , i nanotube production, in vertical set up.
 

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