Electromagnetic fields of fundamental particles -- help please

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The discussion revolves around the intrinsic properties of fundamental particles, specifically quarks and leptons, focusing on their electric fields and magnetic moments. Participants explore theories that explain the generation of electric fields from photons and the definition of electric charge properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about theories, other than string theory, that explain how the electric field of quarks or leptons is generated from photons.
  • Another participant asserts that everything is not made of photons and emphasizes that the basis of electric charge arises from U(1) symmetry.
  • A later reply suggests that quantum field theory provides a comprehensive description applicable to all charged particles, including leptons and quarks.
  • Some participants express confusion about the initial question and request clarification on the concepts being discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of electric fields and charge properties, with no consensus reached on the existence of alternative theories to string theory that adequately explain these phenomena.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the foundational aspects of electric charge and the role of theoretical models in explaining quark behavior, indicating that current models may not fully address these questions.

sirios
Hi, we know that the particles have intrinsic properties for them electric field and magnetic moment, but for what I mean particles, I mean quarks, the fundamental blocks of (protons, neutrons and mesons) with everything that nobody explained as electric and The magnetic field of a particle and lepton quarks occurs can someone explain me, or is that just another mystery to be unraveled by quantum theories?
 
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I have no idea what you are asking. Can you try to fix the grammar of your question and explain it more clearly?
 
well, what I tried to ask was this: if there is a theory, other than string theory, that explains how an electric field of a quark or lepton is generated from photons? or how the electric charge property is defined, that is, positive or negative? since the theoretical models can not go beyond the quarks.
 
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sirios said:
well, what I tried to ask was this: if there is a theory, other than string theory, that explains how an electric field of a quark or lepton is generated from photons? or how is the property of the electric charge defined, ie, positive or negative? since the theoretical models can not go beyond the quarks.

You are confused about a number of things:

1. Everything is not made of photons

2. The basis of electric charge is not a definition but comes from what's called U(1) symmetry.

3. Unfortunately, right now, string theory hasn't quite worked out as its originators hoped - it was a very valuable development but has not really explained anything fundamental like symmetry I mention above, but is still in active development:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/string-theorys-strange-second-life-20160915.

I think you need, in light of the above restate your query. But the following may help you:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591024242/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Thanks
Bill
 
Hi guys, I'm correcting the question because I think a lot of people did not understand what I asked, well, what I tried to ask was this: if there is a theory, besides string theory, that explains how an electric field of a quark or lepton are generated from photons? or how is defined the property of electric charge, ie, positive or negative? since the theoretical models can not go beyond the quarks.
 
bhobba said:
You are confused about a number of things:

1. Everything is not made of photons

2. The basis of electric charge is not a definition but comes from what's called U(1) symmetry.

3. Unfortunately, right now, string theory hasn't quite worked out as its originators hoped - it was a very valuable development but has not really explained anything fundamental like symmetry I mention above, but is still in active development:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/string-theorys-strange-second-life-20160915.

I think you need, in light of the above restate your query. But the following may help you:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591024242/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Thanks
Bill
Thank you só much
 
sirios said:
Hi guys, I'm correcting the question because I think a lot of people did not understand what I asked, well, what I tried to ask was this: if there is a theory, besides string theory, that explains how an electric field of a quark or lepton are generated from photons? or how is defined the property of electric charge, ie, positive or negative? since the theoretical models can not go beyond the quarks.
String theory does not explain that.

Quantum field theory provides a great description of it. This works for all charged particles, leptons and quarks alike.
 
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