Electromagnetism: Can anyone find the mistake?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the electric field produced by a circular sheet of charge, derived from the electric field of a charged ring. The original poster presents an equation for the electric field and attempts to integrate to find the electric field for the sheet of charge, encountering a discrepancy in a factor during their calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the electric field from a charged ring to a circular sheet of charge, integrating over infinitesimal rings. They question the appearance of a factor of 4 in their result instead of the expected factor of 2.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations. Some suggest potential errors in the integration process, while others clarify the importance of correctly accounting for factors during differentiation and integration. There is a recognition of the need to reassess the integration step to resolve the factor discrepancy.

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The discussion includes references to specific mathematical operations and substitutions, indicating a focus on the details of the integration process and the implications of missing factors in the calculations.

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given: the electric field at a point on the axis a distance x from the plane of a ring is [tex]E = \frac {q*x} {4*pi*E0*(x^2+r^2)^{3/2}}[/tex]

where E0
is the permeability coefficient

The charged ring is replaced by a circular sheet of charge of radius a a surface charge density sigma. The ring can be divided into infinitessimally small rings of radius r and thicknes dr. Show that the electric field is given by [tex]E= \frac {sigma} {2*E0} * [1 - \frac {x} {(x^2 + a^2)^{1/2}}][/tex]

this is what I did:

charge on each ring:

[tex]2*pi*r*sigma*dr = A*sigma=Q[/tex]

Electric field on each ring:

[tex]E = \frac {2*pi*sigma*dr*x*r} {4*pi*E0*(x^2 + r^2)^{3/2}} = \frac {sigma*dr*x*r} {2*E0*(x^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}[/tex]

Integrate over ring:

[tex]\frac {sigma} {2*E0} * \int_{0}^{a} \frac {r} {(x^2 + r^2)^{3/2}} dx = \frac {sigma} {2*E0} * [-1/2*\frac{1} {(x^2+a^2)^{0.5}}] (from 0 to a) = \frac {sigma} {4*E0}* [1 - \frac {x} {(x^2+a^2)^{.5}}][/tex]

why is that factor 4 here (it's supposed to be 2)? Help's very much appreciated!
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Looks like you missed a 'r' in the numerator in when you calculated Electric field on each ring:
 
Yes, sorry...missed to write that one in one line. However, I had it back in the integration the line below, so that it didn't affect the answer. It's now edited.

Does anyone have any idea about that factor 4?
 
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The factor is supposed to be '2'. The derivative of [itex]r^2[/itex] is [itex]2r[/itex]. So if you take that into account, you will not get '4'.
 
That's exactly what I did and that caused all the trouble:

substitute: u= x^2 + a^2

so then you have to multiply by (1/2)...oh yeah...I see! I didn't multiply by two when I did the integration...

Oh dear! :cry:

Anyways - thank you so much!
:cool:
 

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