Electromagnetism, current in coil

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The discussion revolves around a problem in electromagnetism involving a coil of wire and the effects of current on tension in a supporting thread. Participants are tasked with determining the magnitude and direction of the current based on the change in tension when current flows through the coil.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant attempts to calculate the current using the relationship between force, current, and magnetic field, but finds their result does not match the provided options. Questions are raised regarding the reasoning behind the decrease in tension due to the current, and whether uniform circular motion is relevant to the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have questioned the assumptions made about the relationship between current and tension, while others are seeking clarification on the role of uniform circular motion in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there may be missing information in the problem statement that could affect their understanding and approach to finding a solution.

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1. A coil of 25 turns of wire is suspended by a thread. When a current flows through the coil, the tension in the thread is reduced by 4.0 x 10-2 N. What are the magnitude and direction of the current? {magnitude of current; direction of current}

a) 4.1 A; clockwise
b) 0.16 A; clockwise
c) 0.16 A; counter-clockwise
d) 4.1 A; counter-clockwise



Homework Equations



F=IlB
B= \frac{\mu NI}{l}

The Attempt at a Solution



B=\muNI/l
F= IlB = Il(\muNI/l) = I2\muN
I = \sqrt{ \frac{F}{\mu N} }

so I = √4.0x10-2 / 4∏x10-7 x25 = 35.48A

My answer doesn't match with any of theirs.

Also, how would I find the direction of current? I don't know the direction of B (magnetic field).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Show your reasoning - why would you expect that a current through the wire would decrease the tension in the thread?
 
Just posting to get on the thread. Seems like there's a lot of info missing. Seems like this problem gives a whole new meaning to "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps"! :smile:
 
Simon Bridge said:
Show your reasoning - why would you expect that a current through the wire would decrease the tension in the thread?

Is there uniform circular motion involved?
 
Is there uniform circular motion involved?
You are the one with the whole problem statement in front of you, you tell me: is their uniform circular motion involved?
 

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