Electron-Positron Pair Instability Supernova

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The discussion centers around the concept of electron-positron pair instability in supernovae, specifically how the formation of these pairs affects energy density and the equation of state (EOS). Participants explore the implications of this phenomenon on stellar stability and collapse, including theoretical aspects and references to literature.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about how the formation of electron-positron pairs leads to instability and increases energy density, seeking clarification on the concept of 'softening of EOS'.
  • Another participant explains that a stiff equation of state has larger pressure for a given density, while a soft equation of state has smaller pressures and is more easily compressed, affecting stellar radii.
  • It is noted that the threshold for pair production is 1.022 MeV, and the process involves photons producing electron-positron pairs, which subsequently annihilate, producing gamma rays.
  • Questions are raised about whether energy density increases during the collapse or as the radius decreases, indicating uncertainty about the timing of these changes.
  • A reference to an article is made, suggesting that the production of free electrons and positrons reduces internal radiation pressure, contributing to gravitational collapse.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the mechanisms of energy density increase and the implications of the EOS softening. There is no consensus on the specific details of these processes, and multiple viewpoints are presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for further clarification on the relationship between pair production, energy density, and the equation of state, as well as the conditions under which these phenomena occur.

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How does the formation of electron positron pairs increase the energy density and softens the EOS?

I trrying to understand the pair instability supernova. In many texts and articles, it is written that the formation of electron positron pairs lead to instability, the energy density is increased and the adiabatic index drops below 4/3 which softens the equation of state.

  • How does the formation of electron positron pairs lead to instability?
  • How is the energy density increased?
  • What does it mean by 'softening of EOS' and how does it happen?
Ref:
1) https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1967ApJ...148..803R/abstract
2)https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.12874
3)https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.07889
 
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Wherever this gets moved to, you'll need some references for where you've been reading this stuff.
 
PeroK said:
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Wherever this gets moved to, you'll need some references for where you've been reading this stuff.
I have included some references
 
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debs1 said:
What does it mean by 'softening of EOS' and how does it happen?
The best statement I can readily find states "A stiff equation of state tends to have larger pressure for a given density. This material resists compression and these stars have larger radii. Naturally, a soft equation of state has smaller pressures, is more easily compressed, and produces stars with smaller radii."

The threshold for pair production is 1.022 MeV. A photon of that or greater theshold would produce an electron-proton pair and transform photon energy into rest mass + some kinetic energy, where the kinetic energy would be given by the difference in the total photon energy before and rest energy after. Then shortly thereafter, the positron would find an electron and annihilate, which would produce 2 photons of 0.511 MeV.

debs1 said:
How is the energy density increased?
Energy density would increase during the collapse, or as the radius decreases?

Did the questions arise from the following article, which cites Ref 1?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair-instability_supernova
the production of free electrons and positrons in the collision between atomic nuclei and energetic gamma rays, temporarily reduces the internal radiation pressure supporting a supermassive star's core against gravitational collapse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair-instability_supernova#cite_note-1

From the article,
In very massive, hot stars with interior temperatures above about 300000000 K (3×108 K), photons produced in the stellar core are primarily in the form of very high energy-level gamma rays. The pressure from these gamma rays fleeing outward from the core helps to hold up the upper layers of the star against the inward pull of gravity. If the level of gamma rays (the energy density) is reduced, then the outer layers of the star will begin to collapse inwards.
 
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