Eliminating Elements in Commercial FEA Solvers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the reasons for eliminating elements in commercial finite element analysis (FEA) solvers, particularly in the context of impact analysis, such as a ball striking a steel plate. Participants explore the implications of this practice on the accuracy of results and the conditions under which elements are removed from the analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of eliminating elements, suggesting it could lead to incorrect results due to the absence of material where elements are removed.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the type of analysis being discussed, noting that "eliminating elements" could have different meanings in various contexts.
  • A participant specifies that the discussion pertains to explicit impact analysis, particularly regarding the elimination of elements in a steel plate during a ball impact.
  • Some participants propose that element elimination may be relevant in scenarios involving destructive impacts or explosions, where material is significantly deformed or damaged.
  • One participant emphasizes that the term "destroyed" may not accurately describe the process, suggesting that elements are removed when they can no longer transmit loads due to exceeding material strength limits.
  • Another participant acknowledges the ambiguity in the term "eliminating elements," indicating that the interpretation can vary based on context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of eliminating elements, with some raising concerns about potential inaccuracies while others provide context for when such practices may be appropriate. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact of element elimination on analysis outcomes.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of "eliminating elements" and the specific conditions under which this occurs, which may affect the understanding of the discussion.

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I want to why actually elements are eliminated in commercial fea solvers.
There is a criterion like stress or strain at which elements having acheived that state are eliminated.
Wouldnt it lead to wrong results because, the material at eliminated elements place has become null.
 
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What type of analysis are you talking about here?

"Eliminating elements" could mean different things in different contexts.
 
I was trying to understand ball impact on a steel plate. So we can take it as explicit, impact analysis.
I am talking about elimination of elements of plate on impact of the ball.
 
The only context I can think of where elements are "eliminated" in an explicit FEA solve would be in an explosion or destructive impact event where material is being destroyed.
 
Mech_Engineer said:
The only context I can think of where elements are "eliminated" in an explicit FEA solve would be in an explosion or destructive impact event where material is being destroyed.

"Destroyed" isn't quite the right word, but if the material in an element is deformed or damaged so much that it can no longer transmit any loads (e.g. the compressive stress exceeds the crushing strength of the material) deleting the element from the model is a simple way to represent that behaviour.
 
As you said AlephZero, it all depends on what he means by "eliminating elements."
 

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