Emotional response when listening to instrumental music

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The discussion revolves around the emotional responses elicited by instrumental music, exploring whether these responses are triggered by specific musical elements like chords and tones or are influenced by individual experiences associated with the music. The conversation touches on theoretical, psychological, and experiential aspects of music perception.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that emotional responses to music are largely experience-based, suggesting that personal associations play a significant role in how music is perceived.
  • Others argue that certain combinations of notes may trigger hard-wired responses in the brain, independent of personal experiences, leading to similar reactions among individuals from diverse backgrounds.
  • One participant notes that music can evoke emotions tied to specific memories or circumstances, drawing parallels to how scents can trigger memories.
  • There is a discussion about the historical development of musical scales and the importance of intervals over absolute pitches in music perception.
  • Some participants question whether emotional responses to musical intervals, such as the minor third being perceived as sad, are learned behaviors or biologically ingrained responses.
  • A suggestion is made for further experimental research to explore the relationship between musical intervals and emotional responses.

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Participants express differing views on whether emotional responses to music are primarily based on individual experiences or if they are rooted in biological responses to musical structures. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on the nature of emotional responses to music, the dependence on personal experiences, and the unresolved question of whether responses to musical intervals are learned or innate.

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When listening to instrumental music, do the specific chords/tones/cadences trigger specific emotional respone from the brain, or would any emotions attached to music be related to an experience related to that music.

ie. would E- to D+ trigger a specific emotion, or would it depend on each person's individual experience on which emotion music would portray?

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I don't have any education in this field, but my personal opinion is that most reaction to music is experience-based. There will certainly always be particular sounds that are soothing, and others that are irritating. I'm not sure that one can actually demarcate where 'sound' ends and 'music' begins. A violin can quite accurately mimic the sound of fingernails on a chalkboard, and a bass oboe once sounded enough like one of my 5-megaton beer farts that it scared my wife off of the couch. On the other hand, rain on a tin roof can be very comforting.
 
I think certain combinations of notes trigger responses that are hard-wired in the brain, rather than triggering memories of experiences. This would explain why people with radically different backgrounds and experiences sometimes react in a similar manner to specific music.
 
The other side of that, though, is that some music is associated with particular circumstances and can thus evoke the emotion that was present when it became prominent. It is somewhat similar to scent in that regard. For instance, whenever I hear 'Born to Run' I can feel that 440 throbbing and my hand on the shifter. Likewise, I'd probably get as horny as a mink if a warthog strolled up wearing 'Sung' perfume, because that's what the ex-from-hell used.
On the other hand, I love everything that Simon & Garfunkle did except 'Bridge Over Trouble Water', due entirely to a total ***** of a music teacher that I had in grade 8. I hate that song because it reminds me of her.

As for tonality, one of Asimov's essays dealt with a mathematical way of determining pleasant note combinations for songwriting.
 
As a quick aside - During the 1500's and up to JS Bach's time, there were many different musical scales developed. You actually have to retune your instrument to a Pytharogrean tuning for older pieces, for example. For harpsichord, or other multi-stringed instruemnts, this is painful.

As far as actual scales go, it is the relation of one pitch to another that we listen to, not the absolute pitch, so there are no wolf tones in thirds, for example. Dissonance ala Charles Ives is a whole 'nother issue.

google for 'Margo Schulter' and read her essays on tuning and musical scale theories.
 
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jim, are you sure it's because instruments in that day weren't just made for one particular key?

But yes, music is about intervals, not so much absolute notes. Going from A to C should sound very similar to going from D to F.

What I can't say is whether this is a learned "response" or whether it's biological. i.e. do we just pick up that a minor third is a sad interval, or is it ingrained in us?
 
Music is definitely about intervals. The modern 12-tone scale is a mathematical solution to the problem of approximating scales to natural harmonics.

Regarding the happy-major-third / sad-minor-third question of biological versus learned response, hopefully someone has done (or will do) an experiment out there. Any grad students?
 
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