Emotionally intelligent, or just 'nice'?

[selfAdjoint]

IMHO there are a lot more things than IQ and EQ in getting along in a job or in life. Street smarts (fluid g) are important, and I've noticed that skill at cards doesn't always correlate with IQ. The only thing I know from studies is that IQ is more important than your daddy's social standing or the amount of money your family had. Up to a point, that is. If daddy was very very rich then all bets are off.

 

[loseyourname]

I wonder what the stats are on US presidents. Dubya seems to have a fairly low IQ, but a very rich father. IIRC, Clinton has a pretty high IQ. What about his father?

 

[the number 42]

Hmm, given that most of the presidents are deceased, the question arises of whether you can get someone to take an IQ test through a medium. Could be an interesting sitting.

There was a spoof list of American presidents' IQ's a couple of years ago at
http://www.linkydinky.com/BushIQ.shtml

"147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
175 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
098 George HW Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
091 George W. Bush (R)

The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest IQ, at 155".

I think the idea was just to have a go at Bush. Which makes it okay then, really.

However, where is the list of presidents' EQ's? I don't know how much he minds being considered relatively dim, but I bet Bush would care very little if someone called his EQ into question. In fact he may well think EQ is for vegetarians and girls with pigtails.

 

[franznietzsche]

Point taken, Dayle I would have thought that a sociopath would be very good at seeing the world through the eyes of the other person (in order to con them etc). However, I looked it up in my EQ library and Goleman says that the psychopath has no ability to feel empathy or compassion, so I guess there can be no such thing as a sociopath with a high EQ, by definition.

Edit: Nvm, on further research it seems i was mistaken in my statement.

 

[the number 42]

Edit: Nvm, on further research it seems i was mistaken in my statement.

Rule 1: There is no room for error on this thread, Sonny Jim.
The punishment for breaking Rule 1 is to join in the 'American Freedom' thread in 'Politics and General Fanaticism' for 3 days.

By the way, can I take it that Franznietzsche and Dayle Record are one and the same person? If so, you must spend SIX days on the above thread.

How do you like THEM apples, mister mistake maker? Hmmm?

(I think the book says it is a sign of emotional intelligence to punish mistakes swiflty and with brute force. Or that might be a different book. Dunno).

 

[Tasthius]

In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton,

There was a spoof list of American presidents' IQ's a couple of years ago at
http://www.linkydinky.com/BushIQ.shtml

"147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
175 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
098 George HW Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
091 George W. Bush (R)

Number 2, this is a fake study. Several people I know have researched this so-called "Lovenstein Institute" and determined it does not exist, nor has ever existed. But of course, you seem to allude to this fact anyway, but I find it curious why you posted the list.

Nixon's IQ is almost assuredly the highest on that list, yet they have Clinton at 182. Come on, 182? Excuse me if I view the list with a bit of incredulity when it proclaims Clinton has an IQ as rare as 1 in a billion. That means only 6 people are alive that are as smart as Clinton.

 

[the number 42]

Number 2, this is a fake study. ... you seem to allude to this fact anyway, but I find it curious why you posted the list.

Apologies, Tasthius, for not making myself clearer. In the UK "spoof" unambiguously means 'humourous send-up' or 'satirical'. It may well be that in other parts of the world it has different meanings.

And I can understand why you are curious as to my motives. I did a google for a list of presidents' IQs, and I could find nothing except for the bogus list. But thinking it might be a bit of fun, I posted it on PF. On the other hand I realize that there is always a danger that spurious facts can linger in the memory, and seem to gain legitimacy over time. And I should search my conscience over how much I didn't mind if this happened, seeing as it was directed against Bush.

Thanks for pointing this out. I doubt that I will post or quote any bogus info in future, or at least without making it very very clear that it is not to be taken literally.