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In 1988, an individual took a British Mensa IQ test, receiving a Cattell-scale IQ score of 161, which is the maximum reported by Mensa, indicating only a lower limit rather than an exact measurement. This realization led to feelings of disappointment and frustration, especially after years of believing the score was definitive. Despite initial hopes of connecting with like-minded intelligent individuals through Mensa, the person found more fulfilling connections through music and other interests. The discussion highlights the misconception that high IQ correlates with shared interests and the importance of social maturity over numerical intelligence. Ultimately, the focus shifted from seeking high-IQ associations to valuing genuine connections with diverse individuals.
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Art said:
Perhaps I do the OP an injustice but it leaves me with the strong impression that the only reason this thread was created was to blow one's own trumpet. I have defended MENSA in the past but I can see how some folk might develop an allergy to it's members based on what I believe to be a self-aggrandizing minority view held by some of it's members.

I started the thread because I was very upset about discovering that when Mensa (or whoever they get to do it) had assessed my IQ 20 years ago, they quoted a number without warning that this was only a catch-all "OK" value, and I had believed it. I can assure you there was nothing in the small print at the time (20 years ago) which suggested this, as I was particular interested at the time (for reasons which were probably somewhat naive) in determining the chances of finding people with similar intelligence. I only discovered this limit a couple of days ago, when looking around on the British Mensa web site.

I must admit that I chose PF forums to vent my feelings because I was assuming to some extent that the intelligence of PF readers would be high, and many (certainly most studying theoretical physics) would be more intelligent that the top 0.5% percentile where my Mensa score had placed me, so the implication that I think I'm "intelligent" wouldn't be an issue.

I felt that Mensa had misled me into thinking that I was less bright than I was, which affected to some extent the way I subsequently led my life, lowering my expectations of myself yet making me puzzled that it was so difficult to find others of similar intelligence. For example, I thought at the time "In that case, I guess I probably wouldn't have been bright enough to study theoretical physics at university anyway" and nearly gave up on it, but later I took a degree through the Open University consisting entirely of Physics and Maths courses and got first class honours.

Art said:
Your complaint about the lack of shared interests between you and other Mensans demonstrates another gap in your knowledge re MENSA. I suggest you check out their SIGs, that is Special Interest Groups (just so you don't one day complain no-one told you what a SIG was :biggrin:)

Mensa is basically a social club for people who typically have a good university level education (at least back in the days when you had to be bright to go to university). There are plenty of good and interesting people there, but they are not very densely concentrated outside major population centres, and just being bright enough to do well at university isn't really a particularly strong shared interest.

I've been a member of the Space and Physics SIGs since I joined Mensa, and tried to participate actively for a while (for example defending SR against a supporter of "Autodynamics"), but I was already having better discussions on the Usenet science newsgroups at the time (before they became so overrun with rubbish as to become unusable by anyone who had a day job). I also participated in some local Mensa music activities, but found much better musical contacts elsewhere (which turned out to include some Mensa members and scientists).

(I'm still a paid-up member and still get the Mensa magazine, and my wife considers it amusing that almost every month the puzzles page or its answers column contains at least one silly error bad enough to invalidate the question or the answer).
 
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Please take the following IQ test: http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf
and get back to us with the results.

I won't be back until around 3 minutes after 6 this evening, pacific standard time, so please take your time.
 
  • #33
OmCheeto said:
Please take the following IQ test: http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf
and get back to us with the results.

I won't be back until around 3 minutes after 6 this evening, pacific standard time, so please take your time.

Thanks for what I'll take as a constructive suggestion, despite the frivolity. The site looks interesting and I may try it some time when I feel up to it (which could take at least a few days as I'm in one of my frequent headache phases). Provided that it's a serious site (which it appears to be), then if I try the test I'll post my result, regardless of how embarrassed I am about it.

Of course, unless it has one of those handy time-warp features, I still won't know what my IQ really was 20 years ago, before IBM claimed my body and soul.
 
  • #34
Jonathan Scott said:
And can anyone here actually recommend any higher-IQ associations (I guess I qualify for 99.5% percentile), or are they all based on the fallacy that being intelligent is somehow a shared interest?

Sorry, not to be rude or anything, but your entire post reaks of you bragging about your supposed superior intellect. If you are as smart as you claim, you should be skeptical enough to know what a poor indicator of intelligence iq really is. You've already been met with hostility due to you showing off, so I'll spare you that. You are looking for people who can keep up with you? I really find that hard to believe... but if you say so, there are several higher iq societies (check wiki, high iq societies) that have steeper requirements than Mensa. I'm sure they have membership fees as well.

I wonder if its possible to get your number or something, to see how 'hard' it really is to keep up with you. I believe my iq was something at 120 when I did it in elementary. So I should be easy pickings for you, no? Otherwise, I find this sort of comical.
 
  • #35
khemix said:
Sorry, not to be rude or anything, but your entire post reaks of you bragging about your supposed superior intellect. If you are as smart as you claim, you should be skeptical enough to know what a poor indicator of intelligence iq really is. You've already been met with hostility due to you showing off, so I'll spare you that. You are looking for people who can keep up with you? I really find that hard to believe... but if you say so, there are several higher iq societies (check wiki, high iq societies) that have steeper requirements than Mensa. I'm sure they have membership fees as well.

I wonder if its possible to get your number or something, to see how 'hard' it really is to keep up with you. I believe my iq was something at 120 when I did it in elementary. So I should be easy pickings for you, no? Otherwise, I find this sort of comical.

If you check back through the rest of the thread, I think you'll find that your points have already been answered.
 
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This is silly and going nowhere. I sense a thread locking.
 
  • #38
Kurdt said:
This is silly and going nowhere. I sense a thread locking.

C'mon, this thread just keeps getting better and better.

Besides, i understand this J. Scott dude. He's just some guy feeling very insecure


Let me help you bro...

marlon, member of the omega/delta/phi IQ Society
 
  • #39
Ha ha ha! This is imranq from the MEGA Society! I bet you can feel my overwhelming intellect already. And as you can see, even my own initials spell IQ. How I laugh at you mere mortals...

On a more serious note, however, the Stanford-Binet scale (if I remember correctly) was not used to measure intelligence, but retardation. Which is ironic, since it seems that's the way this thread is going.
 
  • #40
imranq said:
Ha ha ha! This is imranq from the MEGA Society! I bet you can feel my overwhelming intellect already. And as you can see, even my own initials spell IQ. How I laugh at you mere mortals...

On a more serious note, however, the Stanford-Binet scale (if I remember correctly) was not used to measure intelligence, but retardation. Which is ironic, since it seems that's the way this thread is going.

yeah, weren't IQ tests developed to measure brain "malfunctioning" in the first place ?

marlon
 
  • #41
Kurdt said:
This is silly and going nowhere. I sense a thread locking.
Kurdt is wise and all knowing.

Jonathan, what it boils down to is that a number is not going to change anything. If someone would have given you a higher test number 20 years ago, it would not have made your smarter. And if you would have tried harder and learned more if you had been told a higher number, well, that's pretty bad.

All of this "hype" about IQ numbers is just that, hype. And the Mensa test is not a true IQ test. True IQ tests are administered by and assessed by psychologists trained in this.
 
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