Endurance22 Mission Finds Shackleton's Endurance Wreck: Proof of Preservation?

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The discussion centers around the discovery of Shackleton's Endurance wreck by the Endurance22 mission, focusing on the state of preservation of the ship and concerns regarding potential treasure hunting. Participants explore the implications of the find, including comparisons to other historical preservation cases.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the well-preserved state of the Endurance wreck, noting its intact condition despite being over 3km deep in the Weddell Sea.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for treasure hunters to raid the wreck, with some participants hoping that the ship remains undisturbed to protect both the wreck and the marine life associated with it.
  • One participant draws a parallel between the Endurance wreck and the preservation of remains from the Franklin Expedition, highlighting the fascination with extreme preservation in cold environments.
  • There is a mention of the team's decision to delay announcing the wreck's location to mitigate the risk of treasure hunting, indicating a proactive approach to protecting the site.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the significance of the discovery and the importance of preservation, but there are differing views on the likelihood and implications of treasure hunting.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific historical preservation cases and express personal feelings about the discovery, which may influence their perspectives on the Endurance wreck.

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We need a little good news these days so here is some. The Endurance22 mission found and documented the wreck of Shackleton's Endurance which was crushed by pack ice and sank in 1915 in the Weddell Sea. The ship is basically intact and upright and located over 3km deep. If there are any doubters, here is the proof.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/09/...te=1&user_id=8613815b12767bea258c4c4362fd541d
 
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FYI, here is the website of the Endurance22 exploration mission;

https://endurance22.org/
 
I find the state of preservation of the ship super cool. I expected it to be well preserved in the artic temperature waters, but even so! I really like how sharp the split timbers on the mast looked.

I know everyone is really worried now that the wreck is going to get raided by treasure hunters, but I do hope that this doesn't end up being the case. I also hope that the ship is left at the bottom of the ocean because there is clearly a lot of cool animal life attached to the wreck and I hope it people respect the animal life and not just the wreck (it would be pretty sad for all those interesting creatures to get killed to see the wreck dredged to the surface).

I find mummification and examples of extreme preservation deeply fascinating. The wreck looks like it could have sunk just yesterday, but it belongs to such a different era!

The whole story & discovery reminded me a bit of the story of the doomed Franklin Expedition in 1845, which was a failed British voyage of actic exploration to traverse the Northwest Passage. In the 1980s the graves of some of the doomed crew were discovered on a remote artic island and in one of the, the astoundingly well preserved remains of crew members John Torrington and John Hartnel were discovered; they was so well preserved that despite being dead for over 150, you can see still the blue irises in their eyes (etc). You can see pictures of their remains in this website as well as footage of the Franklin wreck and its story in this link, there's a lot of interesting forensic science involved studying the unfortunate mens remains as people tried to get to the bottom of what exactly happened to the doomed voyage so long ago (warning: some may find the corpse pictures a little macabre): https://allthatsinteresting.com/john-torrington-franklin-expedition-mummies
 
Here is some nice video footage of The Endurance too BTW :)

 
Isopod said:
I know everyone is really worried now that the wreck is going to get raided by treasure hunters, but I do hope that this doesn't end up being the case.
I think that is why the team delayed announcing for several days so no one would know the precise location they were at when they found it since they were giving live location positions.
 

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