Energy current for field satisfying KG equation

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The discussion focuses on deriving the energy current density \(\vec{j}\) corresponding to the energy density \(\mathcal{E}\) in the context of the Klein-Gordon (KG) equation. The participants compute the time derivative of \(\mathcal{E}\) and manipulate the equation using vector calculus identities. The final expression for the energy current density is established as \(\vec{j} = -c^2 \phi_t \nabla \phi\), which is confirmed to be mathematically valid and relates to concepts in field theory.

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Homework Statement
To find the energy current density ##\vec{j}## corresponding to the energy density ##\mathcal{E} = \frac{1}{2} \left[ \phi_t^2 + c^2 (\nabla \phi)^2 + m^2 c^4 \phi^2 \right] = 0##, where ##\phi## satisfies ##\phi_{tt} - c^2 \nabla^2 \phi + m^2 c^4 \phi = 0##
Relevant Equations
N/A
First to compute the time derivative of ##\mathcal{E}##,$$\mathcal{E}_t= \phi_t \phi_{tt} + c^2 (\nabla \phi_t) \cdot (\nabla \phi) + m^2 c^4 \phi \phi_t = \phi_t \left[ \phi_{tt} m^2 c^4 + \phi \right] + c^2 (\nabla \phi_t) \cdot (\nabla \phi)$$Then we switch out ##\phi_{tt} + m^2 c^4 \phi## for ##c^2 \nabla^2 \phi## as per the KG equation,$$\mathcal{E}_t = c^2 \left[\phi_t \nabla^2 \phi + (\nabla \phi_t) \cdot (\nabla \phi) \right]$$This must satisfy the continuity equation with zero sources or sinks, and so$$\nabla \cdot \vec{j} = - \mathcal{E}_t = - c^2 \left[\phi_t \nabla^2 \phi + (\nabla \phi_t) \cdot (\nabla \phi) \right]$$The RHS looks like it might be able to be cleaned up with a vector calculus identity or something, but I can't see it. Wondered if anyone had a hint? Thanks!
 
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etotheipi said:
Homework Statement:: To find the energy current density ##\vec{j}## corresponding to the energy density ##\mathcal{E} = \frac{1}{2} \left[ \phi_t^2 + c^2 (\nabla \phi)^2 + m^2 c^4 \phi^2 \right] = 0##, where ##\phi## satisfies ##\phi_{tt} - c^2 \nabla^2 \phi + m^2 c^4 \phi = 0##
Relevant Equations:: N/A

The RHS looks like it might be able to be cleaned up with a vector calculus identity or something, but I can't see it. Wondered if anyone had a hint?
Product rule?
 
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Ahh okay, I see it now looking at it a second time. It's going to be$$\phi_t \nabla^2 \phi + \nabla \phi_t \cdot \nabla \phi = \nabla \cdot (\phi_t \nabla \phi)$$We can prove this relation by looking at the components, starting from the RHS (and using the summation convention)$$\begin{align*}

\nabla \cdot (\phi_t \nabla \phi) = \partial_i (\phi_t \nabla \phi)_i &= \partial_i(\phi_t \vec{e}_j \partial_j \phi)_i \\

&= \partial_i (\phi_t \partial_i \phi) \\

&= (\partial_i \phi_t) (\partial_i \phi) + \phi_t \partial_i \partial_i \phi \\

&= (\partial_i \phi_t) \vec{e}_i \cdot (\partial_j \phi) \vec{e}_j + \phi_t \nabla^2 \phi \\

&= \nabla \phi_t \cdot \nabla \phi + \phi_t \nabla^2 \phi

\end{align*}$$So back to the actual question, we're left with$$\nabla \cdot \vec{j} = -c^2 \nabla \cdot (\phi_t \nabla \phi)$$which would suggest$$\vec{j} = -c^2 \phi_t \nabla \phi$$Does that look okay?
 
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The math looks right. I admit, I’ve never seen that expression before, but field theory isn’t really my strong suit. It kind of looks like half of the probability current, which I guess makes sense?
 
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