Energy Eigenvalues for Ion with Spin

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The discussion revolves around finding the energy eigenvalues of a Hamiltonian for an ion with effective spin interacting with a lattice. The original poster describes their approach to formulating the Hamiltonian matrix and attempts to derive the eigenvalues from it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the formulation of the Hamiltonian matrix and the process of finding eigenvalues. Questions arise regarding the completeness of the Hamiltonian and the nature of the constant A.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the characteristic polynomial and eigenvalue extraction. There is recognition of a potential misunderstanding regarding the nature of A, and the discussion reflects a mix of attempts and clarifications without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion about whether A is a constant or a matrix, which affects the interpretation of the problem. Additionally, the original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding of quantum mechanics concepts.

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Homework Statement


An ion has effective spin ħ. The spin interacts with a surrounding lattice so that: Hspin = A S2 z.

I first had to write H as a matrix. Then i had to find the energy eigenvalues.

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I figured j=1 and mj = 1,0,-1

S2 z = ħ2(1 0 0; 0 0 0; 0 0 1)

H=Aħ2(1 0 0; 0 0 0; 0 0 1)I think this is right so far but do not know how to progress further. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Hi. Is your Hamiltonian entirely given by Hspin?
If so, what are the eigenvalues of the matrix you found?
 
Hi,
yes it is.

I have an attempt at the eigenvalues only.
I tried following the instructions here https://www.khanacademy.org/math/li.../v/linear-algebra-eigenvalues-of-a-3x3-matrix
Using their notation i got
Hv = λv for the eigenfunction equation
(λI3 - H)v = 0

λI3-H = (λ-ħ2A 0 0; 0 λ 0; 0 0 λ-ħ2A)

from this i got the characteristic polynomial λ3 - λ2ħ22A + λħ4A2 = 0

i put that into wolfram alpha and got the results λ=0 and λ = Aħ2
 
Well, you can easily find this without Wolfram: your characteristic equation is λ(λ–Aħ2)2 = 0,
so the eigenvalues are easy to read-off.
So what are you missing? The Hamiltonian operator returns energy eigenvalues and you found the Hamiltonian's eigenvalues...
 
In my original post i wasnt aware how i could find the eigenvalues. In the time since posting i came across that idea. It also didnt help that when i posted i was under the impression A was a matrix not a constant. Sorry if i was not clear in my original post. Does this seem correct to your eye then, i have very little confidence in my quantum work.
 
A should be a constant unless otherwise specified in your problem's statement; if it were a matrix, you couldn't get very far into the problem without knowing more about it anyway.
The one important thing to note though, is that from the characteristic equation you can see that one of your eigenvalues is degenerate (it appears more than once): Aħ2. It corresponds to two different states of the system with the same energy.
 

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