How Do You Solve for Final Velocity in the Energy Equation Without Mass?

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The discussion centers on solving for final velocity (Vf) in the energy equation 0.5mv^2 = 0.5mv^2 + mgy, specifically when mass (m) is unknown. The participant correctly cancels mass from the equation, leading to the rearranged formula Vf^2 = V^2 + gy. However, a critical error is identified: the participant neglects the 0.5 factor, resulting in the correct equation being 0.5Vf^2 = 0.5Vo^2 + gy. The importance of maintaining factors during algebraic manipulation is emphasized.

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The question I have is trying to solve the final velocity in an energy equation that goes like this: 0.5mv^2=0.5mv^2+mgy (The final velocity being on the LS).

I'm not given the mass of the skier going down the hill so I divide to cancel the mass out. I then rearrange to get Vf^2 = V^2+gy. I've pretty much nailed it down to a simple algebra problem but I can't see what's wrong!

Oh, I might add that I always plug numbers in before rearranging equations but my teacher doesn't like me doing that.
 
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Matt_AMG said:
The question I have is trying to solve the final velocity in an energy equation that goes like this: 0.5mv^2=0.5mv^2+mgy (The final velocity being on the LS).

I'm not given the mass of the skier going down the hill so I divide to cancel the mass out. I then rearrange to get Vf^2 = V^2+gy. I've pretty much nailed it down to a simple algebra problem but I can't see what's wrong!

Oh, I might add that I always plug numbers in before rearranging equations but my teacher doesn't like me doing that.
You canceled out the 'm's' just fine, but what you're left with is
0.5V_f^2 = 0.5V_o^2 + gy you left out that 0.5 factor.
BTW, I always plug in numbers before rearranging equations. It sometimes leads to round off errors, but it sure makes the algebra a lot simpler and less confusing, because it's generally much easier to deal with numbers rather than letters, but don't tell teacher I said that!
 

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