Energy Poverty in Australia: COVID Lockdowns Drove Costs Up 50%

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Older Australians are facing increased energy poverty due to COVID-19 lockdowns, which have led to a significant rise in home heating and cooling costs. The discussion highlights that Australia's electricity prices have historically been high due to a transition from cheap coal to more expensive renewable energy sources, compounded by mismanagement of energy policies and privatization efforts that failed to reduce costs. Comparisons with the U.S. reveal that while Australian electricity prices are high, the overall energy costs as a percentage of household income are lower in the U.S. The complexities of energy pricing are further complicated by factors such as aging infrastructure, retail margins, and the costs associated with maintaining a vast electricity network. The conversation emphasizes that the transition to renewable energy must be managed carefully to avoid exacerbating financial burdens on consumers.
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russ_watters said:
To try to keep this focused on the OP, central to the issue raised by the OP is the apparent mismatch between perception and reality when it comes to renewables: Renewables are (apparently) cheap, so why does installing nenewables make electricity more expensive instead of less expensive? That's the question I'm answering.
Its not a simplistic equation, many other factors at play. My point was only that where you have real market-based decisions rather than gov fiat, renewables are competitive and do not translate into higher retail prices
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What is the cost of nat gas in Australia - ~$7 AUD / gigajoule?

at 0.77 exchange and 947.82 CF / GJ = ~$5.10 USD / MFC compared to current Henry Hub of ~$2.75. While Australia is a net exporter of natural gas, the size of the country and lack of pipelines mean some locations require LNG

Only the US and Canada have cheap natural gas from fracking, so all this discussion about building more gas generation is likely not applicable outside North America
 
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BWV said:
I get the distinction between gWh and gW. In 2019 natural gas was 43% of installed capacity (gW) and produced 38% of US electricity (gWh). Non-hydro renewables were 14% of installed capacity and generated 10% of total electricity.
What does that tell us? What's the connection between those numbers (if any), and between them and the discussion we are having?
But gas generation varies quite a bit, electricity production from both gas and coal declined in 2016-17 and 2014-15 saw a 1194k gWh decline in coal relative to a 200k gWh imcrease in gas and relatively flat total YOY generation
Yes, that's true. What does that tell us relevant to the current discussion? Are we talking about the weather now?
Its not a simplistic equation, many other factors at play.
Yes, I believe that's what I said that started this part of the discussion.
My point was only that where you have real market-based decisions rather than gov fiat, renewables are competitive and do not translate into higher retail prices.
I know that's your point. It's factually wrong. Really, really wrong. Since you bring in government fiat, why do you think California has such high renewable adoption? It's because they subsidize it heavily ("government fiat"). And that cost doesn't factor into LCOE either. In other words, despite spending tons of money to implement renewables that doesn't show up in the retail price, the retail price is still high/rising. It's an additional level of wrong.

Note: your sources are mismatched again. We're discussing intermittent renewables, and the bottom chart is total renewables. The Hoover Dam is not part of this discussion; it operates under a totally different economics than solar/wind.
 

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