Energy Problem with Spring, Gravity, and Friction

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving an elevator traveling at 30 m/s that compresses a spring with a spring constant of 15,000 N/m while experiencing a frictional force of 20,000 N. The mass of the elevator is 3,000 kg, and the problem requires calculating the elevator's speed after compressing the spring by 0.8 m. The initial calculations yielded a speed of 30.03 m/s, but the user was advised to consider the negative work done by friction and clarify the definitions of the variables used in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


An elevator is traveling at 30 m/s just as it touches a cushioning spring. The safety clamps engage at that moment and provide 20,000N of frictional force. The mass of the elevator is 3000kg and the spring constant is 15000 N/m. How fast will the elevator be traveling after the spring compresses 0.8m ?

Homework Equations


K1+Wf = Ug2+Us2+K2
Allow the point that the elevator touches the spring to be y=0

The Attempt at a Solution


1/2*m(v1)2+Ffd=mgy2+1/2*kx2+1/2*mv22
Manipulating this around and plugging in numbers gives an answer of 30.03 m/s for me. Am I missing something here?
Edit: d is just the distance along which friction occurs, -.8 m?
x is the compression of the spring, also .8m
y2 is the distance traveled by the elevator, so -.8m
 
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Hi FettuccineAlfredo,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

Can you define your variables used in the attempt at solution? For example, what distinguishes ##d##, ##x##, and ##y_2##?
 
I didn't check your calculation, but realize that the work done by friction is negative. (As will be y2.)
 

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