Energy Source of E Field in Decay of Neutral Pi Mesons?

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The discussion revolves around the energy source of the electric field generated during the decay of neutral pi mesons into electron-positron pairs. Participants explore the implications of this decay process, particularly in relation to energy conservation and the creation of electric fields in a parallel plate capacitor setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the energy for the electric field comes from the decay of the pi mesons as they create electron-positron pairs that move apart.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative perspective by comparing the situation to the photoelectric effect, where energy is supplied by an incoming photon to eject electrons from a metallic surface.
  • A later reply indicates that as the electrons and positrons move apart, they lose kinetic energy due to mutual attraction, which is converted into potential energy stored in the electric field.

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Participants present multiple competing views regarding the source of energy for the electric field, with no consensus reached on whether the energy originates from the pi mesons or from an external source like a photon.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding energy conservation in particle decay processes or the specific mechanisms of energy transfer in the proposed scenarios.

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Suppose I have a large wall of neutral pi mesons, a lot of particles in a plane . And they decay into electron positron pairs and move in opposite directions to conserve momentum.
Now we have created an E field in between the particles going from plus to minus. Now we have a parallel plate capacitor . As the particle move apart we are creating E fields in space were they didn't use to be and this takes work. Where is this energy coming from. Does all this energy just come from the pi meson?
 
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Er... I'm not sure why you have to invoke such exotic process. How about electrons emitted from a metallic surface in a photoelectric effect? When it is emitted, there's an image charge on the surface that has an opposite charge to the electron. Same thing.

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Thanks for your response, So all the energy comes from the incoming photon that ejected the electron .
 
cragar said:
Where is this energy coming from.

As the electrons and positrons move apart, their speed decreases because they are attracting each other. They lose kinetic energy, which gets converted to potential energy stored in the field.
 
thanks Jtbell, that makes sense.
 

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