Possible decay states strong interaction, parity conservation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decay states of certain mesons, specifically the ##D_{s}## states decaying to a ##1S## state, and the implications of parity conservation in strong interactions. Participants explore the properties of mesons, their spins, and how these relate to decay processes, including the calculation of parities for decay products.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why both decay products of the ##D_{s}^{+} \to D_{s}^{+}\pi^{0}## decay have zero spin, noting that mesons consist of a quark and an antiquark whose spins can add to either 1 or 0.
  • Another participant states that parity is multiplicative and discusses how to calculate the total parity of a system of particles, suggesting that intrinsic parity is relevant to the discussion.
  • There is a mention of the decay ##D_{s}^{+} \to D_{s}^{*+} \pi^{0}##, with a participant expressing confidence that the ##D_{s}^{*+}## has spin 1, and questioning if this is a general rule that unexcited particles have spin 0 while excited ones have spin 1.
  • Participants discuss the need to reference a table of mesons to confirm properties such as spin, with some expressing uncertainty about how to find this information.
  • Clarification is sought regarding the meaning of the symbols used, particularly the notation for spin (##s##) and its implications for the states being discussed.
  • There is acknowledgment that the terminology around spin states can be inconsistent, with some spin 1 states referred to as excited states while others have distinct names.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the spins of decay products and the implications for parity conservation. There is no consensus on the definitions or properties of the states involved, and multiple viewpoints are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on definitions and properties of mesons that may not be universally agreed upon, leading to potential misunderstandings. The discussion includes assumptions about intrinsic properties that are not explicitly stated.

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The question is for which of the ##1P## meson states - ##1^{1}P_{1}, 1^{3}P_{0},1^{3}P_{1}, 1^{3}P_{2} ## ##D_{s}## states decaying to a ##1S## state is the decay: ##D_{s}**^{+} -> D_{s}^{+}\pi^{0} ## possible?

Solution

So the strong interaction conserves parity. Parity of meson is given by ## (-1)^{l+1} ##, for the ##1s## states, ##l=0## and so ##p=1##.

The solution than states as both the decay products have zero spin the total angular momentum of the decaying particle must be equal to the orbitial angular momentum of ##D_{s}^{+}\pi^{0}## system.

So I agree with this last comment, but I have no idea why both decay products have ##0## spin?
I know that a meson is a quark and its antiquark, and so the spin adds to either ##1## or ##0##. But how do we know which it is?

The solution then uses parity of the ##D_{s}^{+}\pi^{0}## system is ##P = (−1)^{l} × −1 × −1 ## *2.
Im confused where this comes from - so I know that the parity of a meson in it's lowest states - i.e- ##l=0## is ##-1##. And I know that for a system of particles ##P=(-1)^{l}##, but, I've never seen how to consider the parity of two particles decayed. Is this how you 'add' the parities ?

And so how exactly should you think of the system of decay products. So a particle has an intrinsic parity. Is this a particle or a quark? I.e is ##P=(-1)^{l}## coming from thinking of a system of quarks or a system of the two particles ##D_{s}^{+}\pi^{0}##?

(From which the solution follows from the fact that we require ##P=1##, again I'm okay with this once I understand expression *2.)

Thanks, your help is really appreciated !
 
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binbagsss said:
So I agree with this last comment, but I have no idea why both decay products have 0 spin?
You can look that up (and one can argue that "spin zero" is part of the definition of those particles).

Parity is multiplicative - you multiply all parity values to get the total quantum number.
binbagsss said:
So a particle has an intrinsic parity. Is this a particle or a quark?
Both descriptions work, but as you deal with hadrons here it is easier to consider those.
 
mfb said:
You can look that up (and one can argue that "spin zero" is part of the definition of those particles).

As in from a table of mesons?
And there's no other way of knowing?
 
Okay, I've had a look a the next part of the question which is to do the same (find the possible states) for the decay ##D_{s}^{+}** -> D_{s}*^{+} \pi ^{0} ##.

And I follow the solution , if it is the case that the ##D_{s}*^{+} ## has ##s=1## , (it doesn't actually state this but I'm pretty sure it's being used).

Is this the case in general, the unexcited version of the particle has ##s=0## and the excited ##s=1##?

Thanks .
 
binbagsss said:
As in from a table of mesons?
Right.
And there's no other way of knowing?
You have to find out what the symbol "##\pi^0##" means - you either know it or you have to look it up.

What is the s=0, s=1 now?
 
mfb said:
What is the s=0, s=1 now?
Sorry? I'm unsure what you are asking?
 
Where does it come from and what does it mean?
 
mfb said:
Where does it come from and what does it mean?
Sorry in post 4 ##s## stands for spin.
 
Sometimes spin 1 states are called excited states, sometimes they have their own particle name. That is not completely consistent.
 

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