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The discussion revolves around solving the equation {27x}^{\log_5 x}={x}^{4}. Participants explore different logarithmic approaches to simplify and solve the equation, ultimately leading to a quadratic form. One user successfully derives the solutions x = 3 and x = 27, but initially misstates the logarithm base as 5 instead of the correct base 3. The thread emphasizes the importance of accuracy in mathematical notation and problem-solving techniques. The final consensus highlights the correct solutions and the need for clarity in problem statements.
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Hey MHB i tried but i can't find the solution for this equation, please help me.

{27x}^{\log_5 x}={x}^{4}
 
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Hello, Chipset3600!

I think I've solved it.
Please check my work.

{27x}^{\log_5 x}=\:\:x^4
Take logs, base 5:

. . . . . . . . . . . .\log_5\left(27x^{\log_5x}\right) \:=\:\log_5(x^4)

. . . . . . .\log_527 + \log_5\left(x ^{\log_5x}\right) \;=\;4\:\!\log_5x

. . . . . . \log_527 + \log_5x\cdot\log_5x \;=\;4\:\!\log_5x

. . (\log_5x)^2 - 4\:\!\log_5x + \log_527 \;=\;0

We have a quadratic in \log_5x.

Quadratic Formula: .\log_5x \;=\;\frac{4 \pm \sqrt{16-4\:\!\log_527}}{2}

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\log_5x \;=\;2 \pm\sqrt{4-\log_527}Therefore: .x \;=\;5^{2\pm\sqrt{4-\log_527}} \;=\; \begin{Bmatrix}236.8886726 \\ 2.638370139 \end{Bmatrix}
 
Chipset3600 said:
Hey MHB i tried but i can't find the solution for this equation, please help me.

{27x}^{\log_5 x}={x}^{4}

Note: Your coding and the appearance of the coding are not consistent. I went with the visual appearance.

A few ways to go about it. I kind of liked introducing another logarithm. There's already so much, that this may not come to mind.

\log\left(27x^{\log_5 x}\right)=\log\left({x}^{4}\right)

\log(27) + {\log_5 x}\cdot\log(x)=4\cdot \log(x)

\log(27) + \frac{\log(x)}{\log(5)}\cdot\log(x)=4\cdot \log(x)

...and it's magically Quadratic in log(x). You should be able to solve that.

Let's see what you get unless someone else does all the work for you.
 
But, can i solve this \sqrt{16-4\log_{5}(27)}}[\TEX] without calculator?
 
Chipset3600 said:
But, can i solve this $\sqrt{16-4\log_{5}(27)}$ without calculator?

Maybe with logarithm tables but a calculator would be much easier. Alternatively you can simplify the surd/logarithm in it's exact form
$$ \sqrt{16-4\log_{5}(3^3)} = \sqrt{16-12\log_{5}(3)} = \sqrt{4(4-3\log_{5}(3))} = \sqrt{4} \times \sqrt{4-3\log_{5}(3)} = 2\sqrt{4-3\log_{5}(3)} $$

Leaving it in exact form is usually better than rounding it off to a decimal.edit: LaTeX (ty Sudharaka and Jameson) - the error was too many of these --> }
 
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me and my friend found the solution:

3^{3}x^{\log_3 x } = x^{4}

x^{\log_3 x } = \frac{x^{4}}{27} doing \log_3 x = y so 3^{y} = x

27(3^{y})^{y} = (3^{y})^{y}

3^{3}.3^{y^{2}}= 3^{4y}
3^{3+y^{2}}= 3^{4y}
3+y^{2}=3^{4y}
3+y^{2}=4y
y^{2}-4y+3=0
y_{1}=1 or y_{2}=3 \log_3 x =1 and \log_3 x = 3

So x = 3 or x=27
 
Chipset3600 said:
me and my friend found the solution:

3^{3}x^{\log_3 x } = x^{4}

x^{\log_3 x } = \frac{x^{4}}{27} doing \log_3 x = y so 3^{y} = x

27(3^{y})^{y} = (3^{y})^{y} That last $\color{red}y$ should be a 4.

3^{3}.3^{y^{2}}= 3^{4y}
3^{3+y^{2}}= 3^{4y}
3+y^{2}=3^{4y}
3+y^{2}=4y
y^{2}-4y+3=0
y_{1}=1 or y_{2}=3 \log_3 x =1 and \log_3 x = 3

So x = 3 or x=27
Good solution (apart from the typo). But you misled everyone here by stating the problem wrongly. You wrote ${27x}^{\log_{\color{red}5} x}={x}^{4}$, and the 5 should have been 3.
 
OMG! Sorry guys! it was my mistake, the base of the Log is 3 and not 5...Thanks
 

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