Equation of the form x+a=√(bx+c)

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation of the form \(x + a = \sqrt{bx + c}\). Participants explore the values of \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\) through specific examples and work collaboratively to solve parts of the problem, including squaring both sides of the equation and simplifying the resulting expressions.

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  • Some participants suggest specific values for \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\) to illustrate the equation, such as \(a=2\), \(b=2\), and calculating \(c\) as 67 based on the equation \(x + 2 = \sqrt{2x + 67}\).
  • One participant emphasizes the need to solve for \(x\) by squaring both sides of the equation, indicating that this is a necessary step in the process.
  • Another participant expresses confusion but later attempts to solve the equation by expanding and rearranging terms, leading to a quadratic equation.
  • Participants provide encouragement and feedback on the steps taken, affirming the correctness of the approach without confirming the final solution.

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There is no explicit consensus on the final solution to the problem, as participants are still working through the steps and expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations.

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Some steps in the mathematical reasoning are not fully resolved, and there may be dependencies on the specific values chosen for \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\). The discussion reflects various approaches to solving the equation without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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i have been stuck
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this problem for a few days now. could somebody help me please?
 
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Hi Jenny! Welcome to MHB!

For part a, let's say for $x=7$ and we set $a=2$, we know $\sqrt{bx+c}$ must be in the form $\sqrt{81}$ so that $7+2=9=\sqrt{81}$.

Since $b>1$, we can let $b$ to be a small positive number, says, $b=2$. The value of $c$ can be found out by doing the following:

$\begin{align*}2(7)+c&=81\\14+c&=81\\ \therefore c &=81-14\\&=67\end{align*}$

Can you answer part b of the question if the equation we just set up is $x+2=\sqrt{2x+67}$?

Don't worry, we can guide you through all parts of the problem, just that we need to work together so you can understand the problem better, okay?
 
anemone said:
Hi Jenny! Welcome to MHB!

For part a, let's say for $x=7$ and we set $a=2$, we know $\sqrt{bx+c}$ must be in the form $\sqrt{81}$ so that $7+2=9=\sqrt{81}$.

Since $b>1$, we can let $b$ to be a small positive number, says, $b=2$. The value of $c$ can be found out by doing the following:

$\begin{align*}2(7)+c&=81\\14+c\\&=81\\ \therefore c\\&=81-14\\&=67\end{align*}$

Can you answer part b of the question if the equation we just set up is $x+2=\sqrt{2x+67}$?

Don't worry, we can guide you through all parts of the problem, just that we need to work together so you can understand the problem better, okay?
thank you so much! we just need to do the same step as a right?
 
Not really, solving means you need to solve for the value(s) of $x$, based on the values of $a,\,b$ and $c$ we got...

Can you solve $x+2=\sqrt{2x+67}$? You need to square both sides of the equation for a start...
 
anemone said:
Hi Jenny! Welcome to MHB!

For part a, let's say for $x=7$ and we set $a=2$, we know $\sqrt{bx+c}$ must be in the form $\sqrt{81}$ so that $7+2=9=\sqrt{81}$.

Since $b>1$, we can let $b$ to be a small positive number, says, $b=2$. The value of $c$ can be found out by doing the following:

$\begin{align*}2(7)+c&=81\\14+c\\&=81\\ \therefore c\\&=81-14\\&=67\end{align*}$

Can you answer part b of the question if the equation we just set up is $x+2=\sqrt{2x+67}$?

Don't worry, we can guide you through all parts of the problem, just that we need to work together so you can understand the problem better, okay?
wait wait, i get it. sorry, i got confused a bit xD
(x+2)^2 = (√ 2x+67)^2
x^2 + 4x +4 = 2x+67
is it correct so far?
 
Well done!

What would you do next?
 
anemone said:
Well done!

What would you do next?

(x+2)^2 = (√ 2x+67)^2
x^2 + 4x +4 = 2x+67
X^2 + 4x + 4 – 67 = 2x+67 –67
X^2+ 4x – 63 = 2x
X^2 + 4x – 63 – 2x = 2x – 2x
X^2 +2x – 63 = 0
X^2 + 9x – 7x – 63 = 0
X(x+9)-7(x+9)=0
(x+9) = 0
X-7= 0
X=-9
X=7

i solved it. i don't know if this correct though
 
Very good job! So, that is the answer for part b of the problem.

Moving on to part c, can you answer it now?
 

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