Equivalence Classes Explaination

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The discussion centers around understanding equivalence classes and the properties of equivalence relations, including reflexivity, symmetry, and transitivity. Participants explore how to determine equivalence classes and seek visual representations to aid comprehension, particularly in the context of discrete mathematics.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on how to determine equivalence classes after verifying the properties of equivalence relations.
  • Another participant suggests that sharing a specific example could help visualize and describe equivalence classes more effectively.
  • A participant shares a specific problem involving a relation defined on ordered pairs of real numbers and another relation on statement forms, indicating a struggle with visualizing these concepts.
  • Another participant provides a visual analogy using cow anatomy to explain equivalence classes, asserting that they represent partitions of a set into mutually disjoint subsets.
  • This participant emphasizes that understanding equivalence relations can simplify the concept of equivalence classes, suggesting that they are two perspectives on the same idea.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and visualization techniques regarding equivalence classes. There is no consensus on a single method or example that best illustrates the concept, indicating that multiple approaches may be valid.

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Some participants express difficulty with the definitions and applications of equivalence classes, suggesting that existing resources may not adequately address their questions. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and examples without resolving the complexities involved.

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I'm wondering if someone could briefly explain how I can determine the equivalence class of relation?

I understand that first you must test the relation to see if is true for the properties, reflexive, symmetric, and transitive. But my main problem is once that is done how can I get the equivlant class of that.

My book that I'm using does a terrible job in explaining the theorem, and hence it is very difficult for me to solve the practice problems.

Thanks!
 
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Do you understand what the definition of equivalence class is but are confused about how to picture it / describe it? If this is the case, then it would help if you posted an example of the problem that you're working on, since it is difficult in general to get a good picture of what an equivalence class looks like.
 
Yeah, I'm a very visual learner (hence why discrete math isn't my strongest subject), I try to picture a lot of problems and I find that helps me to 1) understand/memorize concepts easily and 2) apply the knowledge in tests. Anyways,

I was working on this problem and it drove me crazy until I had to look at the solution manual:

1) Define P on the set R × R of ordered pairs of real numbers
as follows: For all (w, x), (y, z) ∈ R × R,
(w, x) P (y, z) ⇔ w = y.2) Let A be the set of all statement forms in three variables
p, q, and r . R is the relation defined on A as follows: For
all P and Q in A,
P R Q ⇔ P and Q have the same truth table.
 
Sinister said:
Yeah, I'm a very visual learner (hence why discrete math isn't my strongest subject), I try to picture a lot of problems and I find that helps me to 1) understand/memorize concepts easily and 2) apply the knowledge in tests.

Then you're in luck, because there's a totally simple visualization of equivalence classes. Just to pick an example, ever see one of those photos of a cow that shows which cuts of meat come from which part of the cow?

Here's a perfect one.

http://bastropcattlecompany.com/catalog/images/cow-anatomy.gif

Now let's define an equivalence class based on this pic. Let's say that our set is the set of cow particles, where a particle is just some tiny part of the cow -- like a molecule, say.

Two cow particles x and y are equivalent if they are in the same section of the cow.

Is this reflexive? Symmetric? Transitive? Yes, yes, and yes, but you should walk through the logic for yourself. Write down the proof that the relation of two cow molecules being in the same numbered section is an equivalence relation.

That's all an equivalence relation is. It's a partition of a set into a collection of mutually disjoint subsets. Every element of the set goes to exactly one subset; and each of the subsets is an equivalence class.

In other words if you have any equivalence relation, and for some element x you defined the equivalence class of x, denoted [x], as the set of all elements that are equivalent to x; then the set of all the equivalence classes are a partition of the original set.

Another way to say this is that if you have two equivalence classes [a] and , then either [a] = or [a] and are disjoint. You should prove that.

An equivalence relation gives you a partition; and every partition gives you an equivalence relation. Equivalence classes and partitions are just two ways of looking at the same thing.

Once you get this, equivalence relations are easy. And it's totally visual.

[Note: I think that's a bull, not a cow. Fortunately we're not on the Biology forum]
 
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