Estimate section of area under Maxwell-Boltzmann Curve

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The discussion revolves around estimating the area under the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution curve for Krypton atoms moving between 200 m/s and 210 m/s at 30 °C. Participants are exploring integral estimation methods and the application of the Maxwell-Boltzmann equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of integration to estimate the area under the curve and question the correct values to substitute into the Maxwell-Boltzmann equation. There is confusion regarding the choice of velocity values and the calculation of the height of the curve.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the correct approach for estimating the area, suggesting the use of a midpoint value for velocity. There is ongoing exploration of the correct mass value for Krypton and its impact on the calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the information they can share. There is an emphasis on understanding the setup of the problem and the assumptions involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


When it comes to evaluating integrals, there are two ways you can do it. First, you know
that the integration of a function is the area under a curve, as shown in the left hand diagram.
However, if you are looking over a narrow range along the x-axis, you can make an estimation
for the area as shown on the right:
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Use the integral estimation represented on the right to calculate the fraction of Krypton atoms
moving between 200 m/s to 210 m/s at 30 °C from the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution. Hint:
∆x=10 m/s, now how do you get ∆y?



Homework Equations


/y(x)dx = \sumy(n∆x)∆x
Total area of curve = 1

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried plugging in some numbers but it wasnt working too well...any advice?
 
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You could show us the numbers you got. That would get you more help.
 
Yeah sorry about that. The Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution is 4*pi*(m/2*pi*k*T)3/2*v2*e-mv2/2kT and obviously ∆x=10 m/s, so I plugged in 10 for v and 0.0838 kg/mol for m and end up with 0 which doesn't make sense...=\
 
TehDarkArchon said:
Yeah sorry about that. The Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution is 4*pi*(m/2*pi*k*T)3/2*v2*e-mv2/2kT and obviously ∆x=10 m/s, so I plugged in 10 for v and 0.0838 kg/mol for m and end up with 0 which doesn't make sense...=\

Why would you plug in 10m/s for v? v is supposed to be between 200m/s and 210m/s, isn't it?
 
Yeah it is, so that doesn't make sense. I also tried subbing in 210 and 200 for the equation and subtracting them and I still get 0, unless I'm just typing it in completely wrong or something
 
TehDarkArchon said:
Yeah it is, so that doesn't make sense. I also tried subbing in 210 and 200 for the equation and subtracting them and I still get 0, unless I'm just typing it in completely wrong or something

Don't subtract them. The height delta(y) is the value of the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution AROUND v=200 to 210m/s. This is an estimate. You can use any value between 200 and 210 though I'd probably pick 205, just to compromise.
 
I figured out what I was doing wrong (in conjection with using 205 m/s). I should've been using 1.39x10^-25 kg for the mass of krypton. After plugging that in i got y(205m/s) = 0.01133 which brings the area to 10 x .01133 = 0.11 m. A much more sensible answer than 0 haha. Thanks a lot everyone for your help!
 

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