Estimate Weight of Plane & Air Speed Above Wings

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The discussion revolves around estimating the weight of an airplane and the airspeed above its wings, utilizing principles from fluid dynamics and Bernoulli's equation. The original poster presents a scenario involving pressure differences and wing area to derive the weight of the plane.

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  • Participants discuss using Bernoulli's equation to find the airspeed above the wings, while questioning the availability of necessary parameters such as initial and final pressures and height. The original poster expresses confusion about how to proceed with part b of the problem due to these unknowns.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants suggesting approaches to the problem while others express uncertainty about the required information to apply those approaches effectively. There is no explicit consensus on how to resolve the uncertainties presented.

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The original poster notes a lack of initial pressure, final pressure, height, and velocity above the wings, which are critical for applying Bernoulli's equation. This highlights constraints in the problem setup that may affect the ability to find a solution.

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An airplane flies on a level path. There is a pressure difference of 525 Pa between the lower and upper surfaces of the wings. The area of each wing surface is about 128 m2. The air moves below the wings at a speed of 81.5 m/s. Estimate (a) the weight of the plane and (b) the air speed above the wings.

Fup = PA
Fdown=mg

F=525*128=67200 N
67200 = m(9.81); m=6850.153kb

It weighs 67200 Newtons doesn't it?

also, I am unsure how to begin part b - any ideas? Thanks
 
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for b u use bernoulli equation and throw the pressure to one side.u will notice that is P1 - P2 and that's ur 525 Pa
 
semc said:
for b u use bernoulli equation and throw the pressure to one side.u will notice that is P1 - P2 and that's ur 525 Pa

hmm, to use bernoulli's equation I need:

Bernoulli_eqn_s.GIF


I don't have initial pressure, final pressure, the height, or any way to calculate V above the wings... I guess I'm unsure how to solve with so many unknowns??
 
any ideas? This one sure has me confused...
 

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