Estimating the expected yield of a chemical reaction

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The discussion revolves around estimating the expected yield of a chemical reaction involving diatomic hydrogen and oxygen gases in a continuous flow reactor setup. Participants explore theoretical procedures and factors influencing the reaction yield before the gases are outputted to the environment.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines key factors to consider, including the dimensions of the tube, amounts of input substances, temperature, and pressure gradient, which may affect the reaction rate.
  • Another participant suggests that the scenario resembles a continuous flow reactor and implies that chemical engineering literature may provide relevant methodologies, although they do not specify any particular texts.
  • A later reply reiterates the importance of the Arrhenius equation for understanding the reaction kinetics and emphasizes the need to consider the rate of conversion and the time the gases spend in the tube.
  • One participant claims "Problem solved," but does not provide further details or clarification on the solution.

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The discussion does not reach a consensus, as participants present various considerations and approaches without agreeing on a definitive solution or methodology.

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Participants have not resolved the mathematical steps or assumptions necessary for a complete analysis of the reaction yield, and the discussion remains open to further exploration of the topic.

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Scenario: Suppose that a pump creates a partial vacuum, which is used to input air (gas) from the environment into a long tube. At a certain point within this tube, diatomic hydrogen and oxygen (gases) are also inputted into the tube. The tube outputs back into the environment. I have provided a diagram that illustrates this.

Goal: What is a good theoretical procedure for estimating what portion of the added inputs, hydrogen and oxygen, is transformed into water before being outputted to the environment?

Here are my thoughts on what factors to consider:
1. The dimensions of the tube; length, since that sets the time limit in which the gases must react, and diameter, since this determines what region of space the gases are permitted to move in.
2. The amounts of input substances; obvious.
3. Temperature; affects the kinetic energy of the molecules and the rate of reactions.
4. Pressure gradient; I expect that, in general, this would cause a unidirectional flow of the gas molecules and change in the kinetic energy of the molecules, maybe even affecting the rate of the reaction (?)

Any advice on the mathematical analysis or additional concepts to consider would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
 

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Can't see attachement yet, but from the description it sounds like a continuous flow reactor. I suppose any good chemical engineering book will have a section describing how to solve the problem. Not being engineer myself (heck, I am not even a chemist) I can't point you to any exact title.
 
buffordboy23 said:
Scenario: Suppose that a pump creates a partial vacuum, which is used to input air (gas) from the environment into a long tube. At a certain point within this tube, diatomic hydrogen and oxygen (gases) are also inputted into the tube. The tube outputs back into the environment. I have provided a diagram that illustrates this.

Goal: What is a good theoretical procedure for estimating what portion of the added inputs, hydrogen and oxygen, is transformed into water before being outputted to the environment?

Here are my thoughts on what factors to consider:
1. The dimensions of the tube; length, since that sets the time limit in which the gases must react, and diameter, since this determines what region of space the gases are permitted to move in.
2. The amounts of input substances; obvious.
3. Temperature; affects the kinetic energy of the molecules and the rate of reactions.
4. Pressure gradient; I expect that, in general, this would cause a unidirectional flow of the gas molecules and change in the kinetic energy of the molecules, maybe even affecting the rate of the reaction (?)

Any advice on the mathematical analysis or additional concepts to consider would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.

The Arrhenius equation should be helpful for this application so you should demonstrate the application of this equation to your problem. You ultimately need to consider the rate of the conversion and the time that the hydrogen and oxygen gases spend within the tube; the latter is an independent variable.
 
Problem solved.
 

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