Eurosongchist: Calling All Masochists

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The discussion revolves around the Eurovision Song Contest, with participants expressing their opinions on the event, comparing it to American Idol, and sharing humorous takes on the performances and voting process. The conversation includes elements of personal experience, cultural commentary, and critiques of the contest's nature.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disdain for the Eurovision Song Contest, likening it to American Idol and suggesting that the quality of music is poor.
  • Others argue that Eurovision is a long-standing tradition where countries send their best contributions, though they also acknowledge the political nature of voting.
  • A participant humorously suggests that better music could be found through absurd means, reflecting a strong negative opinion on the contest's quality.
  • There are mixed feelings about specific entries, with one participant mentioning that Serbia's entry was "alright," indicating a degree of subjectivity in opinions on the performances.
  • Some participants reference past winners like ABBA, discussing their historical significance in the contest.
  • Concerns are raised about the nature of competitions like American Idol, suggesting that they prioritize marketability over genuine artistry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the value and quality of the Eurovision Song Contest, with multiple competing views on its merits and the nature of music competitions in general.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal biases and humorous exaggerations, and there is a lack of consensus on the quality of the music and the legitimacy of the voting process.

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I am listening to the Eurovision song contest, i am now a Eurosongchist and the pain is terrible.
 
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Is that the European version of American Idol?

I would rather be stung to death by fire ants than watch American Idiot, I mean Idol. I'm sorry, that guy that just won has apparently never looked in the mirror, I just died laughing.
 
No the idols are all national. The eurovision song festival is a very old tradition. Each country sending its best contribution for the competition. But it's as ridicule as the idols. In this case the vote is pure political and has nothing to do with the quality of the contestants.
 
This is beyond pain, people are voting? hell one could get better music by yanking on a Yaks testicles.
 
Serbia's entry was alright actually! (at least I think it was Serbia...)
 
wolram said:
hell one could get better music by yanking on a Yaks testicles.

:smile: :smile: :smile:

Let me guess, Greece have given douze points to Cyprus? :bugeye:

Believe me, Evo, after watching eurovision you'll gladly watch American Idol for the rest of your life! It's that bad! It's not even a musical contest anymore, it's turned into a europe-wide "Lets hate Britain" contest accompanied with some background screeching by a menagerie of strangled animals. You may think I'm exaggerating, but Ireland's entry (which sadly didn't make it to the finals) was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_the_Turkey" .
 
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Wow some real music, they are playing Abba Waterloo.
 
Russia in the lead?? either they have invented a better balalaika or they have found oil.
 
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Didn't Abba actually win that contest long ago?
 
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Hell if the Vatican ever enter the song contest, may be with a modern version of onward Christian soldiers-------------------------.
 
  • #12
Chi Meson said:
Didn't Abba actually win that contest long ago?

They sure did, they were my favorites until that bird did the song on an aeroplane wing.
 
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Evo said:
Is that the European version of American Idol?

I would rather be stung to death by fire ants than watch American Idiot, I mean Idol. I'm sorry, that guy that just won has apparently never looked in the mirror, I just died laughing.

You don't watch it, yet you know who won? Hmm...veeery veeery eeenteresting. I don't even know who the contestants were this year, let alone who won. Though, couldn't avoid the story on the radio about it (driving to work at that hour of the morning when no radio station seems to play music, and they all jabber on about stupidity). They were saying something about there being two finalists and the network or whoever sponsors the thing wanted one to win over the other because the one was a nice pushover that would do everything they told them, and the other actually had a mind of his own and wouldn't easily be told what to do. Why even hold a contest when it's really all about the network finding a good lackey to put on THEIR show, not an actual artist? Then again, I guess that really isn't news to anyone after the first few seasons.
 
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Moonbear said:
You don't watch it, yet you know who won?
He's from around here and it's been all over the local news.
 
  • #15
Moonbear said:
You don't watch it, yet you know who won? Hmm...veeery veeery eeenteresting. I don't even know who the contestants were this year, let alone who won. Though, couldn't avoid the story on the radio about it (driving to work at that hour of the morning when no radio station seems to play music, and they all jabber on about stupidity). They were saying something about there being two finalists and the network or whoever sponsors the thing wanted one to win over the other because the one was a nice pushover that would do everything they told them, and the other actually had a mind of his own and wouldn't easily be told what to do. Why even hold a contest when it's really all about the network finding a good lackey to put on THEIR show, not an actual artist? Then again, I guess that really isn't news to anyone after the first few seasons.

I agree with MoonB, what did she say?
 
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Evo said:
I would rather be stung to death by fire ants than watch American Idiot, I mean Idol. I'm sorry, that guy that just won has apparently never looked in the mirror, I just died laughing.

I can honestly say that I have never, ever seen a single episode. I did however play the role of Simon in a spoof of Idol at our teachers talent show last year. To prep for it, I watched as many interviews with Simon I could find on the internet. I ended up liking and respecting the guy immensely. I did happen to see a few clips of Idol within the interviews, so I got the idea.

By the way everyone said that I was "spot-on, seriously." My best Simon line was:
"That was Breathtaking! Seriously, you have sucked the life out of the entire building."
 
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Chi Meson said:
By the way everyone said that I was "spot-on, seriously." My best Simon line was:
"That was Breathtaking! Seriously, you have sucked the life out of the entire building."
:smile: That's great!
 

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