Evaporation of Water: Error in Formula?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of water evaporation rates based on various factors such as temperature, humidity, air speed, and elevation. Participants are examining different equations and their applicability, while questioning the accuracy of the formulas they have encountered.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of an evaporation equation sourced from engineeringtoolbox.com, noting discrepancies in unit conversions that lead to inflated evaporation rates.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative equation for calculating evaporation rates, providing specific parameters and constants involved in the calculation.
  • A different participant reports similarly high evaporation rates using the suggested equation, expressing concern that the rates are unrealistic for a swimming pool.
  • One participant shares their own calculations for vapor pressures and evaporation rates, indicating a significant drop in water level based on their findings.
  • Another participant offers anecdotal evidence regarding expected evaporation rates, suggesting practical observations over theoretical calculations.
  • A link to an external resource is provided for further exploration of evaporation rate calculations.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the accuracy of the equations discussed. Multiple competing views on the appropriate formulas and their results remain evident throughout the discussion.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the assumptions and conditions under which the equations are valid, including the need for accurate vapor pressure calculations and the influence of environmental factors on evaporation rates.

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I am trying to calculate the rate (g/m2) of water evaporation given Temperature, Humidity, Air Speed, elevation.

The best source of an equation for this I have found is from engineeringtoolbox.com, but I have found a possible error in their calculation. (I am in a far off land with no access to real textbooks)

The equation:
g = Θ A (xs - x) (1)
where
g = amount of evaporated water (kg/h)
Θ = (25 + 19 v) = evaporation coefficient (kg/m2h)

However, later on the example switches air speed units:
g = ( 25 + 19 (0.5 (m/s)) ) ( 25 (m) 20 (m) ) ( 0,019826 (kg/kg) - 0.0115 (kg/kg)) / 3600
= 0.04 kg/s

When I use this equation with m/s and kg/s, I get an inflated evaporation rate (their example alone provides and incredible evaporation rate for a pool).

Can anyone give me a confirmation of this equation?

Is there a more recommended equation for calculating evaporation(and a source)?


Thank you
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This should work.

M-dot= (A)(42.6+37.6V)(Pw-Pa)/Hv

where

m-dot= evaporation rate, kg/hr
A= surface area, m^2
V= air velocity over water surface, m/s
Pw= saturation vapor pressure at water temperature, mm Hg
Ps= saturation vapor pressure of air dew point, mm Hg
Hv= latent heat of vaporization of water at pool temperature, about 2270 KJ/Kg
 
This equation is also giving me inflated evaporation rates:

Using:
A = 9m2
V = 0.5m/s
Pw (at 25 deg. C) = 11.76 mmHg
Ps (at 50% RH) = 23.53 mmHg

Gives:
m-dot = 2.84 kg/hr

At this rate my pool will empty almost as fast as I can fill it.



I am using the following equations for computing the Pressures (in Pa, and in visualbasic)

Public Function Vap_Pres_Sat(TempK As Double) As Double

Vap_Pres_Sat = 22105649.25 * Exp((-27405.526 + 97.5413 * TempK + -0.146244 * TempK ^ 2 + 0.00012558 * TempK ^ 3 + -0.000000048502 * TempK ^ 4) / (4.34903 * TempK - 0.0039381 * TempK ^ 2))

End Function

Public Function Vap_Pres(TempK As Double, RH As Double) As Double

Vap_Pres = Vap_Pres_Sat(TempK) * RH

End Function
 
Pw@25 C = 23.71 mmHG

Ps@ 18 C = 15.46 mmHG ( 25 C air temp, 50% RH)

m-dot= 2 KG/hr, that is about .0022 cm/hr drop in water level for a 9 m^2 surface area

For a vapor pressure calculator goto:

www.csgnetwork.com/vaporpressurecalc.html

To review evaporation rate information goto:

"Measurement and analysis of Evaporation from an inactive outdoor swimming pool"

www.p2pays.org/ref/19/18985.pdf
 
I don't have a formula for you, however, I can tell you from experience that you can expect no more than a 1/2 inch of evaporation, for a full day, in the hottest of weather. You can expect increased evaporation if you are in a very windy area. If you think your evaporating too much water, turn the pool off overnight, if you've lost water overnite chances are you have a leak.
 
See

http://www.rlmartin.com/rspec/whatis/equations.htm

Bob S
 
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