Undergrad Even/Odd solutions for particles in boxes

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The discussion clarifies the classification of solutions for particles in boxes, specifically addressing the even and odd solutions associated with quantum mechanics. Even solutions correspond to even integers (n = 2, 4, 6, etc.) and are represented by sine functions, while odd solutions correspond to odd integers (n = 1, 3, 5, etc.) and are represented by cosine functions. The confusion arises from the terminology, as "even" and "odd" refer to the symmetry of the solutions rather than the mathematical properties of the sine and cosine functions. The parity operation is defined under the transformation x → a-x, leading to distinct eigenfunctions based on the chosen interval.

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I don't get the even/odd solutions
My book tells me that, for both infinite and finite particle in boxes, that:

Even solutions are for n = 2, 4, 6, etc and have a sin function form, while odd solutions are for n = 1, 3, 5 etc and have a cos function form.

I'm very confused though, because sin functions are odd and cosine functions are even. Do the even and odd terms just apply to the n values?

Also, as a side-note, do these solutions have n-1 nodes?

Thanks
 
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It depends on how you localize your "box". If you choose the interval as ##[0,a]## you get much more simple
$$u_n(x)=\sin(n k x), \quad n \in \mathbb{N}=\{1,2,3,\ldots \}, \quad k=\frac{\pi}{a}.$$
"Even" and "Odd" refers to the symmetry of the problem under reflections at the midpoint ##x_0=a/2## of the interval, i.e., under the transformation ##x \rightarrow a-x##. This is the parity operation ##\hat{P}##. Indeed you get
$$\hat{P}u_n(x)=u_n(a-x)=(-1)^{n+1} u_n(x),$$
i.e., the odd-##n## eigenfunctions have positive, the even-##n## eigenfunctions negative parity.

If you make the interval ##[-a/2,a/2]##, then you get cos and sin solutions, which directly are even and odd functions under reflections ##x \rightarrow -x##. Of course these are the same solutions as with the other choice of the interval.
 
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vanhees71 said:
It depends on how you localize your "box". If you choose the interval as ##[0,a]## you get much more simple
$$u_n(x)=\sin(n k x), \quad n \in \mathbb{N}=\{1,2,3,\ldots \}, \quad k=\frac{\pi}{a}.$$
"Even" and "Odd" refers to the symmetry of the problem under reflections at the midpoint ##x_0=a/2## of the interval, i.e., under the transformation ##x \rightarrow a-x##. This is the parity operation ##\hat{P}##. Indeed you get
$$\hat{P}u_n(x)=u_n(a-x)=(-1)^{n+1} u_n(x),$$
i.e., the odd-##n## eigenfunctions have positive, the even-##n## eigenfunctions negative parity.

If you make the interval ##[-a/2,a/2]##, then you get cos and sin solutions, which directly are even and odd functions under reflections ##x \rightarrow -x##. Of course these are the same solutions as with the other choice of the interval.
That makes a lot of sense, thanks.

Only thing I'm still confused about is that my book, which has the interval -a/2, a/2, associates the odd solutions with cosine, despite the fact that cosine is obviously even..
 
MaestroBach said:
That makes a lot of sense, thanks.

Only thing I'm still confused about is that my book, which has the interval -a/2, a/2, associates the odd solutions with cosine, despite the fact that cosine is obviously even..

The book must mean odd and even numbered.
 
PeroK said:
The book must mean odd and even numbered.
Well that's very confusing, thanks
 
PeroK said:
he book must mean odd and even numbered.

So the odd solutions are even-numbered and the even solutions are odd-numbered.

That's really...odd.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
That's really...odd.
No, it's really even, at least as long as
...the odd solutions are even-numbered and the even solutions are odd-numbered.
:smile: SCNR
 

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