Example where higher moments are infinite

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding examples of probability distributions that exhibit specific properties regarding their moments, particularly focusing on cases where certain moments are finite while others are infinite. The scope includes theoretical exploration of probability distributions and their characteristics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests examples of distributions where \(\mathbb{E}z=0\), \(\mathbb{E}z^2=1\), but \(\mathbb{E}z^4=\infty\).
  • Another participant suggests using the density function \(f(x)=k/(1+x^4)\) as a potential example for the first question.
  • For the second question, a participant proposes the density function \(f(x)=c/(1+x^2)\) for \(x>0\) and \(f(x)=0\) for \(x<0\).
  • Another participant mentions the Pareto distribution as a possible example for the second question regarding \(\mathbb{E}x=\infty\) where \(x>0\) and \(\mathbb{E}|\log x|<\infty\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus, as multiple examples are proposed without agreement on their validity or completeness. Participants present different potential solutions to the posed questions.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the parameters of the proposed distributions may be implicit, and the discussion does not clarify the conditions under which these examples hold true.

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Can someone give me an example where we have \mathbb{E}z=0, \mathbb{E}z^2=1 (i.e. finite expectations)
BUT,
\mathbb{E}z^4= \infty ?

Also, I cannot think of a case where:
\mathbb{E}x=\infty where x&gt;0
BUT,
\mathbb{E}| \log x |&lt; \infty

Thanks in advance
 
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St41n said:
Can someone give me an example where we have \mathbb{E}z=0, \mathbb{E}z^2=1 (i.e. finite expectations)
BUT,
\mathbb{E}z^4= \infty ?

Also, I cannot think of a case where:
\mathbb{E}x=\infty where x&gt;0
BUT,
\mathbb{E}| \log x |&lt; \infty

Thanks in advance
For your first question, let the density function f(x)=k/(1+x4).

For the second, f(x)=c/(1+x2) for x>0, f(x)=0 for x<0.
 
St41n said:
Can someone give me an example where we have \mathbb{E}z=0, \mathbb{E}z^2=1 (i.e. finite expectations)
BUT,
\mathbb{E}z^4= \infty ?

Also, I cannot think of a case where:
\mathbb{E}x=\infty where x&gt;0
BUT,
\mathbb{E}| \log x |&lt; \infty

Thanks in advance

Try the Pareto distribution.
 
Thank you very much. It makes sense
 

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